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Originally posted by dadudemon
My Fiancee, who holds two degrees and has been working in banking for almost 10 years, tells me all the time how she's super excited to make food for me. And she can't wait to clean my house and decorate it.

Obviously, I tell her that I'll be cleaning and cooking right along side her (and that I would follow her directions in the kitchen like a good Sous-Chef).

But, is this okay to you? Is it okay that she wants these things and gets excited about it? It would seem you look down on women who want to be in the kitchen.

No one's looking down on Women who enjoy to cook... I don't understand what you're trying to say? My mother loves to cook too and frequently cleans and decorates. So what, that's their choice?

When it becomes a problem is when it's not a Woman's choice to cook and clean, but a Man's decision that she be made to cook and clean.

Originally posted by Firefly218
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No one's looking down on Women who enjoy to cook... I don't understand what you're trying to say? My mother loves to cook too and frequently cleans and decorates. So what, that's their choice?

When it becomes a problem is when it's not a Woman's choice to cook and clean, but a Man's decision that she be made to cook and clean.

Originally posted by Firefly218
You are correct, women have the same rights. But the residual impact of thousands of years of patriarchy doesn't go away that quickly. Women are definitely doing much better today, but Men still overwhelmingly control most of business and politics and religion. Culturally, in the USA there are still places that uphold "traditional" values that involve Women staying in the kitchen.

I do think that the Patriarchy is slowly dying away though. It'll take time and continued work for the culture of patriarchy to die.

I mean...you're almost directly saying that it is the patriarchy's fault that a woman would be forced to adhere to traditional values like "cooking and cleaning."

On a side note, you should see my house: it is extremely clean. My brother says I'm a serial killer. 🙁

Anyway, yes, traditional values...I prefer women have a choice and I prefer my sweetheart tell me what she wants. If she wants to stay home and raise children, I'll make sure I'll provide enough money so she can do it.

Originally posted by Raisen
you have been mislead by years of media my friend.

we live in a world with threats. men are better suited to be in charge of protecting against these threats. it's the way it's always been.
iq tests between men and women have been manipulated long ago for whatever agenda it may be. women only beat men in iq tests before the age of 15; this is the small window where females are smarter due to faster maturation during this time.

any extensive research will reveal this manipulation.

things are the way they are. nature is the way it is. we are sexually dymorphic for a reason...survival. in all our modern sensibilities we have decided to try to change that for the feels. it's a dangerous game

And the reason you believe Men are better than Women and deserve to be in charge is because that's the world you live in. It has nothing to do with the truth.

There's no evidence that women do better at "robotic things" or men have more "clarity".

Actually Fly, while you personally may not look down on it, some crazy folk do. They would see her liking to cook for her partner and scream patriarchy.

look when the graph spiked. around the 70's when no fault divorce was implemented and the government became the new father.
mind you. male suiced rate can be overlayed and is a mirror image of this.

unrelated?

Originally posted by Firefly218
I didn't get this perspective from media, I got it by living in the world around me.

And the reason you believe Men are better than Women and deserve to be in charge is because that's the world you live in. It has nothing to do with the truth.

There's no evidence that women do better at "robotic things" or men have more "clarity".

actually there's scientific evidence that makes a lot of sense considering hormones etc. you can believe what you want

And speaking of kids, in a divorce who is more likely to end up with custody of them? The men, of course, since we live in a patriarchy.

Originally posted by Raisen
look when the graph spiked. around the 70's when no fault divorce was implemented and the government became the new father.
mind you. male suiced rate can be overlayed and is a mirror image of this.

unrelated?

I don't mean to shit on your parade but that graph also closely mirrors the US Population.

A better graph, which would reveal interesting statistical trends, would be per capita.

Edit - Thanks for posting that information on single fathers. I was wanting to see the differences between children raised by single fathers vs. single mothers. Are there differences? Better? Worse? The same?

Originally posted by Surtur
And speaking of kids, in a divorce who is more likely to end up with custody of them? The men, of course, since we live in a patriarchy.

😆

I actually laughed out loud.

This level of snark reminds me of 2000s Daily Show Jon Stewart.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't mean to shit on your parade but that graph also closely mirrors the US Population.

A better graph, which would reveal interesting statistical trends, would be per capita.

Edit - Thanks for posting that information on single fathers. I was wanting to see the differences between children raised by single fathers vs. single mothers. Are there differences? Better? Worse? The same?

men are often screwed over in family court as I've witnessed so there's not a huge population to gauge but it appears men are much better and more stable for children.

just look at prison to see the effects off mass single motherhood

Originally posted by Surtur
Actually Fly, while you personally may not look down on it, some crazy folk do. They would see her liking to cook for her partner and scream patriarchy.

Odd exceptions do not break the rule, but if you want to go on believing the US isn't patriarchal leaning, you go on right ahead with your delusions

Originally posted by dadudemon
I mean...you're almost directly saying that it is the patriarchy's fault that a woman would be forced to adhere to traditional values like "cooking and cleaning."

On a side note, you should see my house: it is extremely clean. My brother says I'm a serial killer. 🙁

Anyway, yes, traditional values...I prefer women have a choice and I prefer my sweetheart tell me what she wants. If she wants to stay home and raise children, I'll make sure I'll provide enough money so she can do it.

And for many many years it has been the case that women have been denied education and careers, and told since birth that their only duty is to cook, clean and please their husbands.

I know first hand, I've visited family relations in south asia many times and I've seen the oppression of the women in the household.

Originally posted by Robtard
Odd exceptions do not break the rule, but if you want to go on believing the US isn't patriarchal leaning, you go on right ahead with your delusions

A leftist talking about believing delusions, priceless.

the us is not patriarchal.

Originally posted by Raisen
the us is not patriarchal.

Originally posted by Firefly218
So Men having more societal power than Women is just the natural order of things? How convenient for you, a man.

But don't studies show that, on average, men put in more work? They are the ones more likely to stay late at work, work more hours each week, etc. They are less likely to take time off to be with their kids. That is one reason why they make more than women lol, it's not the patriarchy or sexism.

Originally posted by Surtur
A leftist talking about believing delusions, priceless.

Now you're attacking because I busted your silly biased narrative.

Originally posted by Firefly218
So Men having more societal power than Women is just the natural order of things? How convenient for you, a man.

Originally posted by Robtard
Now you're attacking because I busted your silly biased narrative.

How did you bust a narrative? All you did was say "you're deluded if you don't think this is a patriarchy" lol.

https://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/

why for the last 20 years are tv shows full of glamorizing single moms and women who choose to have babies out of wedlock?

why do we pay welfare recipients more money as a reward for having more children?

please. take note of the destructive nature of the lies we've been told.

statistically. women comit much higher amounts of child abuse also.

look at the research i posted above. someone please speak logic and facts to me