Rebels Ahoska Tano vs Dooku

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Yes, I am aware of this, but you have to understand that Palpatine suggesting Ahsoka's value in revealing the whereabouts of other Jedi does not negate Vader's true desires regarding Ahsoka: he wants to destroy her. Filoni himself has outright stated Vader's intense desire to kill Ahsoka because of the fact she represents everything that he once was: Anakin Skywalker, his relationship with Padmé and Kenobi, and the Jedi.

"Ahsoka Tano, to Darth Vader, represents everything that maybe, perhaps, he was wrong about as Anakin. As Anakin he trained Ahsoka, put all of his knowledge into her hands, she became a Jedi very much in the way that he was going to be a Jedi. She reminds him of Padme. She reminds him of Obi-Wan. She reminds him of growing up in the Temple. And Darth Vader wants to destroy that, and Anakin Skywalker lives in denial of that and wants to run from it." —Dave Filoni

"Can you imagine this person that is so wrapped up in their hatred for themselves, as much as external hate—that he just can't deal with it—he needs to destroy her. —Dave Filoni

The idea that Vader's seemingly insatiable desire to destroy everything from his past life would be reigned in by Palpatine's recognition of Ahsoka's worth in continuing the Jedi Purge, is honestly, absurd. What Palpatine said is not binding Vader to take Ahsoka alive, especially when Vader "needs" to destroy her, as per Filoni. Not to mention the fact that Vader literally states that Ezra could substitute for Ahsoka in helping him discover the whereabouts of the rest of the Jedi.

I have absolutely no idea how you got that impression from anything I have said or someone else has said in this thread. 😐

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Yes, I am aware of this, but you have to understand that Palpatine suggesting Ahsoka's value in revealing the whereabouts of other Jedi does not negate Vader's true desires regarding Ahsoka: he wants to destroy her. Filoni himself has outright stated Vader's intense desire to kill Ahsoka because of the fact she represents everything that he once was: Anakin Skywalker, his relationship with Padmé and Kenobi, and the Jedi.

"Ahsoka Tano, to Darth Vader, represents everything that maybe, perhaps, he was wrong about as Anakin. As Anakin he trained Ahsoka, put all of his knowledge into her hands, she became a Jedi very much in the way that he was going to be a Jedi. She reminds him of Padme. She reminds him of Obi-Wan. She reminds him of growing up in the Temple. And Darth Vader wants to destroy that, and Anakin Skywalker lives in denial of that and wants to run from it." —Dave Filoni

"Can you imagine this person that is so wrapped up in their hatred for themselves, as much as external hate—that he just can't deal with it—he needs to destroy her. —Dave Filoni

The idea that Vader's seemingly insatiable desire to destroy everything from his past life would be reigned in by Palpatine's recognition of Ahsoka's worth in continuing the Jedi Purge, is honestly, absurd. What Palpatine said is not binding Vader to take Ahsoka alive, especially when Vader "needs" to destroy her, as per Filoni. Not to mention the fact that Vader literally states that Ezra could substitute for Ahsoka in helping him discover the whereabouts of the rest of the Jedi.

I have absolutely no idea how you got that impression from anything I have said or someone else has said in this thread. 😐

My confirmation bias is great

Originally posted by Zenwolf
...?? How's that? Ezra doesn't know any Jedi apart from Kanan. Kanan I'd wager wouldn't know where any Jedi are either.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Well, neither does Ahsoka, as far as we know.

True. But still. You go from Ahsoka to a new Jedi in training to know where Jedi are?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
True. But still. You go from Ahsoka to a new Jedi in training to know where Jedi are?

Originally posted by |King Joker|
For all Vader knows Ahsoka has shared this information with Ezra. Or Kanan, who is a grown adult. Point is, as far as Vader is concerned, Ahsoka is probably not his only option in extracting information on potential Jedi survivors.

I guess.

It's explicitly stated Vader was going all out vs Ahsoka. This shouldn't be a discussion.

Originally posted by Kurk
Then you agree that Dooku>Vader

Originally posted by Kurk
Then you agree that Dooku>Vader 🙂

My confirmation bias is great

Honestly Dooku > Vader isn't that far fetched when you think about it.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
It's explicitly stated Vader was going all out vs Ahsoka. This shouldn't be a discussion.

Vader can't be lowered in comparison to Dooku based on his performance vs Ahsoka because we've never seen Dooku face Ahsoka.

Was it?

Yeah cause even if Dooku did fight Tano it'd be TCW Tano where he'd stomp her.

Fulcrum Tano VS ROTS Dooku wouldn't be a stomp although I don't see Ahsoka getting anywhere.

Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
Honestly Dooku > Vader isn't that far fetched when you think about it.

he does have force lightening

Originally posted by redpill
he does have force lightening

Yes, but it'd only be useful if Vader leaves an opening or is disarmed, in which case, Dooku would just be better of striking him down.

If Vader overextends it's more likely for Dooku to strike with his blade rather than his saber.

If Vader does get hit by Dooku's lightning there's a chance it could cause problems.

I say this because everytime we've seen Vader get brought down by Force lightning it's because him missing a hand leaves an opening for it to get through.

Vader's control panel seems like a great weakness for Makashi to exploit 🙂.

Plus all Dooku has to do is use the force to press the button that deactivates Vader's life support.

Originally posted by Kurk
Vader's control panel seems like a great weakness for Makashi to exploit 🙂.

Plus all Dooku has to do is use the force to press the button that deactivates Vader's life support.

A control box protected by a custom style centered around Djem So that Makashi would have to get through.

I'd be interested to see how Vader and Dooku compare in their use of the Force against each other.

For instance their Force walls.

Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
Was it?

Dooku.

Honestly there's no reason to believe Dooku doesn't win this.