Mass Shootings in America Thread

Originally posted by cdtm
I know asking "why" is cliche, but I guy like this, I really wish I could get in his head since, at least, his tweens.

You've got to be a real sociopath to get angry at someone calling you out when you're the one at fault, much less getting so angry you want to literally murder someone.

Well no, any narcissist will get angry at being called out. You have to be a sociopath to go and murder people over it though.

I think this guy just stewed in hate for years and years. He had a grudge against this place.

I'm just baffled at twitter. Given the things I have seen them ban people for..and yet this guy made repeated murder threats. People tried to get a restraining order. The cops did nothing.

Why is this a common theme? The failure to act upon these things. I do not get it. I could maybe somewhat see if the things he said were vague...but that isn't the case here.

"(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence."

Article 11 of Universal Declaration of Human Rights

I long to be a part of this man's legal team.

Also, if this dude was a known threat in the past, shame on the company for not recognizing this security risk.

The UN has no right to wag their tongue about human rights. They shit on Israel way more than other places that have done worse.

Originally posted by Surtur
There is no point in not naming him because you will never get every major media outlet to agree to never name shooters.

You sure can. You can create a regulation and fines for naming him. And I think those fines should go to charities that are legit and work to stop violence. Or to the victim's families.

Originally posted by Surtur
The name will get out there.

Not if regulated properly. Social media may not work. But legit scientists are stating that naming them and making their names so public are directly contributing to these types of mass shootings.

Just

look

at

all

the

people

stating

no-naming.

And as you know, I want public policy to be based off of actual science and not feelings and agendas.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/workers-shot-wounded-kansas-elementary-school-56340682

Awful, I wonder how long until someone blames Trump.

5 dead including the Gunman in Texas

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-shooting/five-dead-including-gunman-in-texas-nursing-home-shooting-official-idUSKBN1KI0G0

Lets all give thanks that once again. The Gun Put an End to the Life of this POS. Thanks GUN!

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Thanks DRUGS! [/B]

But you know Guns don't kill people, people kill people... when they use guns. So Guns kill people then?!? Rightist mental meltdown...

The answer is clear: we should ban people!

Originally posted by carthage
5 dead including the Gunman in Texas

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-shooting/five-dead-including-gunman-in-texas-nursing-home-shooting-official-idUSKBN1KI0G0

Awful

Originally posted by Putinbot1
But you know Guns don't kill people, people kill people...

Spot-on, which is why people were being killed in Glasgow at much higher rates than anywhere else in the modern world, without guns, back in 2005.

Glasgow has done a damn good job at reducing homicides despite the fact that those murders were committed almost completely without guns.

Here's probably one of the most important points that Americans aren't really doing:

The US should take a look at Glasgow for the last 20 years and see if we can adopt what the government did there to reduce homicides here.

Tough pill to swallow - caring about your fellow citizens. That's how Glasgow did it. Americans can't even implement a UHC because we don't give a shit about each other that much.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/06/glasgow-murder-rate-knife-gang-crime-police

Why do The Left Hate Freedom so much?

DDM: This will be challenging to implement in the United States, with a rather large component of that difficulty being due to interest representation abuses.

Flyattractor: What makes you say that?

At how Easily Places like Scotland. "That once held a reputation for Fierce Independent Nature" just give in or up said Freedom to such movements.

Originally posted by The Lost
DDM: This will be challenging to implement in the United States, with a rather large component of that difficulty being due to interest representation abuses.

By "interest representation abuses", I think you mean corruption or lobbying corruption. (for example, privatized prisons systems that lobby for mandatory minimum sentences, three strike rules, and a drug war)

If you have the time, expand on that like...a whole bunch. I would love to read it. I personally feel like my knowledge in this area - how to reduce homicides while navigating "interest representation abuses" - is severely lacking and I'd like some more educated in this area to write out their thoughts.

Originally posted by dadudemon
By "interest representation abuses", I think you mean corruption or lobbying corruption. (for example, privatized prisons systems that lobby for mandatory minimum sentences, three strike rules, and a drug war)

Considering they mean the same thing, it's going to be what I meant.

If you have the time, expand on that like...a whole bunch. I would love to read it. I personally feel like my knowledge in this area - how to reduce homicides while navigating "interest representation abuses" - is severely lacking and I'd like some more educated in this area to write out their thoughts.

How to reduce it while "navigating" it is, as a bit of an understatement, hugely arduous because those abuses, along with other factors (specifically in the United States), are gusts that compose an overwhelmingly strong wind and reducing homicides might as well be the Vasa.

I might know some in this area but you'd be better off with academic resources or at least fingers that will point in that direction. They will be better able to sufficiently explain and relay this information (and will definitely be more precise) than a layperson such as myself. I will PM you.

Originally posted by The Lost
Considering they mean the same thing, it's going to be what I meant.

I apologize, I never saw those three words together - interest representation abuses - and I assumed it meant corruption. I would rather clarify than talk in ignorance.

🙁

Originally posted by dadudemon
Spot-on, which is why people were being killed in Glasgow at much higher rates than anywhere else in the modern world, without guns, back in 2005.

Glasgow has done a damn good job at reducing homicides despite the fact that those murders were committed almost completely without guns.

Here's probably one of the most important points that Americans aren't really doing:

[b]The US should take a look at Glasgow for the last 20 years and see if we can adopt what the government did there to reduce homicides here.

Tough pill to swallow - caring about your fellow citizens. That's how Glasgow did it. Americans can't even implement a UHC because we don't give a shit about each other that much.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/06/glasgow-murder-rate-knife-gang-crime-police [/B]

Damn, he tried to be clever and you just came in and told him "that's just not gonna happen".