Secret Society vs Annihilators

Originally posted by leonidas
psycho pirate has almost no durability and would die as collateral damage almost immediately. he'd never close the starting distance alive without help at least. stroke? odd choice... zoom and cheetah are basically neutered since they are ground bound. zoom could take someone out, but he couldn't take everyone and there are guys like ss who can manipulate time if needed.

i think annihilators take this. sinestro, adam and bizzarro are the tough ones.

He doesnt need durability not when he can incapacitate the entire field with an emotionally faced glance. Based on forum rules and the way basic kmowledge works pirite would be seen as the second lowest threat on the opposimg team. Black Adam, Bizzaro, Zoom, Simestro, Cheetah, Dr Light hell even Polaris are all far better known to the public with more public appearances against more noteable and known heroes. On a threat matix he wouldn't even be high on antones radar given its 9 vs 7. While the Annihilators start off to take out the higher threats pirate glances theit way in a panic stricken face and effectively puts the team on the back foot and teduces their effectiveness immensely making those you said not a factor a very large one.

In a battle of more even numbers given everone on the field for the Annihilators except maybe ronan (possibly BRB also but debatable as better speed feats than Thor)moves fast enough to not allow pirate a chance to make such a face you might have a point.

Way I see it if the Annihilators actually rank him as a high enough threat to take out first they should win in a hard fought battle. If they dont no one is resisting his emotional manipulation and they loose pretty quick.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
And out come the out of context scans... 🙂 I'm a bigger DC fan than anyone and I was suggesting Superman could beat Thanos, long before you were a member here. But I'm balanced and I also am well aware of what the likes of Quasar are.

And Surfer has been mindcontrolled twice by psycho man, a bootleg version of Psycho Pirate.

Gladiator would be a prime candidate for Physco Purate.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What context is there? Really curious.

I mean Abhi, no offence but you have 10 Billion posts that all say the same thing.

I love Superman as a character too, be true to his ideals a little more.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Often with you the context is determined for highballing or lowballing a character.

I mean Abhi, no offence but you have 10 Billion posts that all say the same thing.

I love Superman as a character too, be true to his ideals a little more.

But show us these imaginary travel speed feats for Quasar. Better yet, just tell me issue number and I'll post those for you.

So Abhi, you are saying you have never heard of the Quantum Jump? Google it... Seriously...

Quantum jump isn't a travel speed feat. He just teleports using quantum zone.

On a side note

Based on the scene after the hugely long credits in Justice league looks like if we ever get a JLA 2 secret Society of Super Villains may be on the cards.

Then again we didnt get Thanos in Avengers 2 so maybe not

Originally posted by abhilegend
Quantum jump isn't a travel speed feat. He just teleports using quantum zone.

I'd agree with this. Its the same way GL's cover galaxies and Surfer travels. The word jump sort of gives it away.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
So Abhi, you are saying you have never heard of the Quantum Jump? Google it... Seriously...

That's like saying Batman has the best speed feats in all of the street levellers....

Because he uses JLA teleporters to instantly travel to the Moon.

effectively speaking for the match its the same thing though. and @boks--i disagree totally with your assessment. the team's common knowledge would let them no he is an emotional manipulator. it also requires that he make direct, visual contact. from starting distances, attacks--huge, high level attacks--would be unleashed immediately. his only chance would be if sinestro were protecting him. if they did that there is a chance he could have an impact. otherwise he is squashed like a bug. most of the fight would also be taking place from the air. again, unless he's got protection he's pretty much useless unless someone on the annihilators walks right up to him. /shrug

if he is capable of affecting people from a large distance that would change things. otherwise can't really see marvel losing this one.

During infinite Crisis, Barry picked Physco Purate up and ran with him through all of the AMs shadow demons, turning them mad and setting them loose on the AM.

Zoom could do the same, no?

Originally posted by leonidas
effectively speaking for the match its the same thing though. and @boks--i disagree totally with your assessment. the team's common knowledge would let them no he is an emotional manipulator. it also requires that he make direct, visual contact. from starting distances, attacks--huge, high level attacks--would be unleashed immediately. his only chance would be if sinestro were protecting him. if they did that there is a chance he could have an impact. otherwise he is squashed like a bug. most of the fight would also be taking place from the air. again, unless he's got protection he's pretty much useless unless someone on the annihilators walks right up to him. /shrug

if he is capable of affecting people from a large distance that would change things. otherwise can't really see marvel losing this one.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Quantum jump isn't a travel speed feat. He just teleports using quantum zone.

He travels a great distance in the ordinary universe instantaneously through jumping through the Quantum zone. He goes directly to the destination, instantaneously. He has travelled from 1 point to another instantaneously. He has therefore travelled instantaneously. Because he has changed locations instantaneously.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Of course it's a travel speed feat.

He travels a great distance in the ordinary universe instantaneously through jumping through the Quantum zone. He goes directly to the destination, instantaneously. He has travelled from 1 point to another instantaneously. He has therefore travelled instantaneously. Because he has changed locations instantaneously.

Just curious. How would this help in a battle, and wouldn't that be considered self-BFR?

Originally posted by leonidas
effectively speaking for the match its the same thing though. and @boks--i disagree totally with your assessment. the team's common knowledge would let them no he is an emotional manipulator. it also requires that he make direct, visual contact. from starting distances, attacks--huge, high level attacks--would be unleashed immediately. his only chance would be if sinestro were protecting him. if they did that there is a chance he could have an impact. otherwise he is squashed like a bug. most of the fight would also be taking place from the air. again, unless he's got protection he's pretty much useless unless someone on the annihilators walks right up to him. /shrug

if he is capable of affecting people from a large distance that would change things. otherwise can't really see marvel losing this one.

Abhi beat me too it.

He has controlled people from a huge range. Entire cities/planets (one of tje scens in COIE itself had him simltaineously affecting several worlds at once- not sure of the canoninity)

Pre Crisis he had to have line of sight not post.

I mean seriously the guy has soloed several JSA line ups with quite a few powerhouses like those here. Is that supposed to be irrelivant?? Do only the marvel team of heroes opperate at their best as per forum rules and not the DC villians???

Originally posted by Faceless808
Just curious. How would this help in a battle, and wouldn't that be considered self-BFR?

hmm, pirate bears some investigating or some scans at the very least. i must have been thinking pre-crisis. if he is so haxx how is it he loses...? need to do some checking on him when i get some time to do so.

Originally posted by Faceless808
Just curious. How would this help in a battle, and wouldn't that be considered self-BFR?