DoJ investigating Harvard over Affirmative Action policies

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/politics/harvard-affirmative-action-justice-department/index.html

It must be legit since it's on the main page of CNN.

Asian Americans claim they've been discriminated against. What do you think? Double-standards finally exposed?

The school is being subpoenaed to surrender relevant documents by Dec 1.

Well, I'd be pissed if I didn't get a spot just because of affirmative action. I'd also be pissed if I got a spot over someone who is better just because I'm Hispanic. I believe in being rewarded for your own merit and hard work, rather than because they had to fill a quota. That's just me though.

YAY

I hope affirmative action gets overturned as a whole since it's a racially discriminatory piece of shit practice.

Originally posted by socool8520
Well, I'd be pissed if I didn't get a spot just because of affirmative action. I'd also be pissed if I got a spot over someone who is better just because I'm Hispanic. I believe in being rewarded for your own merit and hard work, rather than because they had to fill a quota. That's just me though.

Interesting and fair perspective.

Originally posted by socool8520
Well, I'd be pissed if I didn't get a spot just because of affirmative action. I'd also be pissed if I got a spot over someone who is better just because I'm Hispanic. I believe in being rewarded for your own merit and hard work, rather than because they had to fill a quota. That's just me though.

I like to be fair as much as possible. There's obviously going to be some advantages/disadvantages depending on circumstances, but I believe the hard-work/best results should be rewarded always.

So are they just going to cross reference applications/test scores over who got accepted to figure this out?

Originally posted by socool8520
I like to be fair as much as possible. There's obviously going to be some advantages/disadvantages depending on circumstances, but I believe the hard-work/best results should be rewarded always.

Your personal ethics/ideologies are, at least, consistent across topics which makes it easier to discuss these things.

We need another thread on prisons in the US, I think. You'd have a much different perspective than me, for sure.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Your personal ethics/ideologies are, at least, consistent across topics which makes it easier to discuss these things.

We need another thread on prisons in the US, I think. You'd have a much different perspective than me, for sure.

Everyone is susceptible to hypocrisy but I try to be level across the board.

Prisons in the U.S.? That's a pretty vague subject. Are we talking about unpaid labor like Rocky brought up in another thread or racial bias?

If Asians feel they've been discriminated against in Harvard due to being Asian, they should just transfer to Berkeley University. It's a boon there.

^ I believe it's because they weren't minority enough for affirmative action to work in their favor since that's a thing now I guess. It's a legit complaint imo if their scores were better than the people admitted over them.

It's a legit complaint for anyone being discriminated against by these policies. It's disgusting.

^ Yeah, that's what I was saying

Fair enough, was just clarifying for all of the apologists for this type of racism.

I wonder what will happen in 50 years when whites are the minority...

Then you can have a NAAWP.

No we won't, there'll still be complaints about institutional racism and shit and expectations of people to apologize for their white guilt.

You'll have a 400 year waiting period I guess to make up for the invasion of the Native American lands to now.

Plus remember Hitler was also white. So there is a lot of healing for us to do.

Originally posted by socool8520
^ I believe it's because they weren't minority enough for affirmative action to work in their favor since that's a thing now I guess. It's a legit complaint imo if their scores were better than the people admitted over them.

Affirmative action is good in theory, but poor in practice. As we had more qualified people left on the curb and positions filled by the less qualified and when it comes to jobs like the Police, Fire, Medical Emergency etc., you want the most qualified, regardless of their skin color.

But is Asians were not "minority enough", meaning there was no clear discrimination against them in the amount of courses/classes, then what exactly is there to be upset over.