Originally posted by h1a8
Ok in a CIS-less fight he has FF on.
May you post a scan of Thor using lightning to teleport without the aid of Mjolnir? And give the issue number if you have it.
What do you mean aid? As in no portals or traditionally method or not using Mjolnir at all, even if it's just to channel his innate Thunder God powers?
This one is personally my favorite as it's so instantaneous, the opponents don't even notice it happens.
Avengers Annual #1.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm in graduate school and work. I understand a busy schedule.
Am I supposed to care?
This is getting tedious and we've run around in circles. I can't force you to understand why thinking that Unworthy Thor having better feats and him winning the battle with a character as unique as Juggernaut using ONLY just those feats is the same thing. Juggernaut at his very best using specifically all his feats has a mystically impenetrable force field. It's the only hope he has, so I know you'll reference it even if he's unlikely to use it all. That doesn't mean Juggernaut can beat Thor, not at all btw.
If Unworthy Thor has better feats than Juggernaut, why can't he beat him? Specifically when you said Axis Thor beats him worse than regular Thor does. If unworthy Thor is unable to beat Juggernaut, why is Axis Thor able to beat Juggernaut IYO?
Even without the force field, unworthy Thor is unlikely to ko Juggernaut. His only hope is mjolnir to remove his invulnerability.
You just proved to be the coward I always knew you are. Congrats.
My scans are ready and my first post is written up. Tomorrow afternoon? Monday morning?
I'm not free till next month. So no.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusSaid he was available this week but has already backed down. He won't do it. You won as long as he backs down the same week he said he'd be good.
I'm in graduate school and work. I understand a busy schedule.This is getting tedious and we've run around in circles. I can't force you to understand why thinking that Unworthy Thor having better feats and him winning the battle with a character as unique as Juggernaut using ONLY just those feats is the same thing. Juggernaut at his very best using specifically all his feats has a mystically impenetrable force field. It's the only hope he has, so I know you'll reference it even if he's unlikely to use it all. That doesn't mean Juggernaut can beat Thor, not at all btw.
My scans are ready and my first post is written up. Tomorrow afternoon? Monday morning?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Am I supposed to care?If Unworthy Thor has better feats than Juggernaut, why can't he beat him? Specifically when you said Axis Thor beats him worse than regular Thor does. If unworthy Thor is unable to beat Juggernaut, why is Axis Thor able to beat Juggernaut IYO?
Even without the force field, unworthy Thor is unlikely to ko Juggernaut. His only hope is mjolnir to remove his invulnerability.
You just proved to be the coward I always knew you are. Congrats.
I'm not free till next month. So no.
Oh, he can beat him, he would just not be able to knock him out if he's using his force field. Which begs the question, does Juggernaut have a force field or not in these scenarios? He's a lot more likely to end it anyway he can.
Why? Thor almost knocked him out in h2h once before. Unworthy Thor isn't physically weaker, still has his lightning and his axe. His strength, weather powers and axe can all take down Cain. Juggernaut's main method is h2h and Thor is a lot faster and more skilled.
What? What are you even saying? Coward about what? You're here posting on multiple threads NOW. You have time.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh, he can beat him, he would just not be able to knock him out if he's using his force field. Which begs the question, does Juggernaut have a force field or not in these scenarios? He's a lot more likely to end it anyway he can.
But how is it beating him worse than regular Thor. And where did unworthy Thor teleported anyone?
Why? Thor almost knocked him out in h2h once before. Unworthy Thor isn't physically weaker, still has his lightning and his axe. His strength, weather powers and axe can all take down Cain. Juggernaut's main method is h2h and Thor is a lot faster and more skilled.
In that issue his invulnerability was tied to his force field and not inherent. If you are going to use that showing, Juggernaut always has his force field.
Thor can't beat Juggernaut in h2h. He isn't strong enough to ko him.
What? What are you even saying? Coward about what? You're here posting on multiple threads NOW. You have time.
And now you can't read either.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHe will continue to respond but will claim he can't do a battlezone. We both knew he'd find a way to weasel out of this. I wouldn't take his battlezone challengers seriously. Lob has more courage than Abhi.
Oh, he can beat him, he would just not be able to knock him out if he's using his force field. Which begs the question, does Juggernaut have a force field or not in these scenarios? He's a lot more likely to end it anyway he can.Why? Thor almost knocked him out in h2h once before. Unworthy Thor isn't physically weaker, still has his lightning and his axe. His strength, weather powers and axe can all take down Cain. Juggernaut's main method is h2h and Thor is a lot faster and more skilled.
What? What are you even saying? Coward about what? You're here posting on multiple threads NOW. You have time.
Originally posted by abhilegend
But how is it beating him worse than regular Thor. And where did unworthy Thor teleported anyone?In that issue his invulnerability was tied to his force field and not inherent. If you are going to use that showing, Juggernaut always has his force field.
Thor can't beat Juggernaut in h2h. He isn't strong enough to ko him.
And now you can't read either.
You're a waste of my time. Got me amped, got others amped, and you don't have time except you regularly post on two different boards. I have exams and I found time. You can do it while on a laptop while you shit, it's what I did. Whatever.
Thor can knock him out. He almost did.
Originally posted by ODG
Thor vs Juggernaut again, from Thor #429:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsJuggernaut09429.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsJuggernaut10.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsJuggernaut12.jpg
Juggernaut being completely and utterly invulnerable/untouchable at that level has only ever been present with the force field. Without it, he got beat up by Thor's vastly superior skill and greater speed. Which is consistent with everything we know.
You yourself have argued on multiple occasions that he is far from invulnerable and can be harmed. Are you now arguing that Juggernaut without his force field is as durable in other comics as Juggernaut was in this comic with his force field as you're claiming his invulnerability is tied to it. KMC has a great search function, would you like me to bring up your previous posts?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're a waste of my time. Got me amped, got others amped, and you don't have time except you regularly post on two different boards. I have exams and I found time. You can do it while on a laptop while you shit, it's what I did. Whatever.
I gave you time of a week. You didn't responded, don't play a victim.
Thor can knock him out. He almost did.
Only by removing his invulnerability.
Juggernaut being completely and utterly invulnerable/untouchable at that level has only ever been present with the force field. Without it, he got beat up by Thor's vastly superior skill and greater speed. Which is consistent with everything we know.
Except it's not tied with his force field. Like his fight with Hulk in Hulk 172 where Hulk couldn't hurt him at all. He has no sold Wolverine's claws without his force field.
Defalco thought it was only through his force field but its only for that arc. Juggernaut isn't completely invulnerable but Thor level characters aren't knocking him out.
You yourself have argued on multiple occasions that he is far from invulnerable and can be harmed. Are you now arguing that Juggernaut without his force field is as durable in other comics as Juggernaut was in this comic with his force field as you're claiming his invulnerability is tied to it. KMC has a great search function, would you like me to bring up your previous posts?
I never said he is completely invulnerable. Just that Thor isn't strong enough to overcome his invulnerability.
Harming someone does not means you can KO them. Namor has hurt Thanos, doesn't means he can ko Thanos.
You said, you're available this week. You never said ONLY this week and a busy month ahead. It's still the CURRENT week you talked about. We could easily be doing the battle zone right now. You're not making any sense.
Juggernaut is exceptionally tough to injure for a character at his level and even harder to put down but he is not invulnerable or incapable of being knocked out by a character as strong as Thor.
The Hulk and Juggernaut came off as super strong equals in that issue.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What do you mean aid? As in no portals or traditionally method or not using Mjolnir at all, even if it's just to channel his innate Thunder God powers?This one is personally my favorite as it's so instantaneous, the opponents don't even notice it happens.
Avengers Annual #1.
In the very same issue, Thor managed to match the power of Lord Barton's punch. I was impressed.
Probably Thor's best strength feat to date, surpassing the Midgard Serpent and Yggdrasil ones.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You said, you're available this week. You never said ONLY this week and a busy month ahead. It's still the CURRENT week you talked about. We could easily be doing the battle zone right now. You're not making any sense.
I've made myself clear. If you want for me to give clarification on my schedule, you're delusional.
Juggernaut is exceptionally tough to injure for a character at his level and even harder to put down but he is not invulnerable or incapable of being knocked out by a character as strong as Thor.
Yes, he is. You can try to show us Thor level beings able to ko Juggernaut.
The Hulk and Juggernaut came off as super strong equals in that issue.
Except Hulk wasn't able to harm Juggernaut at all.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Watch rage squirm away from it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm available for this week.I made it simple enough for you to read. Now as you are using Thor in general, you have to forfeit your claim.
You specifically said unworthy Thor buttercup. I'm talking about the first post you posted.
I will do the BZ anyway to break you snowflake but this is just pathetic.
Are you still unable to read sweetie?
Oh honey, you aren't even trying now. Second part of your post.
Axis Unworthy Thor vs Juggernaut BZ after this, eh?
Second page I called it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Abhi will back out.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=648035&pagenumber=2
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What do you mean aid? As in no portals or traditionally method or not using Mjolnir at all, even if it's just to channel his innate Thunder God powers?This one is personally my favorite as it's so instantaneous, the opponents don't even notice it happens.
Avengers Annual #1.
We have no idea exactly how everyone got teleported. Thor once pointed with Mjolnir and teleported someone. Also, Mjolnir was being charged before the teleportation happened. It's inconclusive and can't be used to prove that Thor can teleport people without Mjolnir.
