Superman VERSUS Alpha Flight

Started by RealityWarper4 pages

Superman get Alphaflighted.

Originally posted by beatboks
Guardian at his best can slow him down/occupy him (better than Luthor can).

wut....? guardian wouldn't last 1 second against a serious superman. luthor's armor (at least the more recent one, but even the classic) has let him battle superman 1 on 1 for prolonged periods of time. i'm down with an in-character superman losing here (though not after he's taken their measure in a best of 10) but guardian isn't slowing superman down....not unless he really doesn't care.

Are you referring to classic Guardian? As guardian at his best was built to be a Galactus buster and had better energy manipulation then Quasar

well....yeah. i'd think THAT version wasn't exactly standard...

Originally posted by leonidas
well....yeah. i'd think THAT version wasn't exactly standard...

Well that was the standard until Chaos War, which I believe when he came back from the dead they made him 100% human again. It was never stated he lost it but I’m fairly confident that upgrade is gone

Originally posted by -K-M-
@IT

😂 knew that would get you.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Better hope he blitzes Shaman before the old indian pulls out a little pocket sand and finishes it.

Right, Right, cuz of the magic.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Supeeman ko’s them off panel ftw

AF being featured unconsious in a Superman comic would be their most mainstream appearance.

Originally posted by Bentley
AF being featured unconsious in a Superman comic would be their most mainstream appearance.
😂

Originally posted by -K-M-
Are you referring to classic Guardian? As guardian at his best was built to be a Galactus buster and had better energy manipulation then Quasar

I was thinking a mix of the two with that being the high end

Originally posted by -K-M-
Wasn’t Tamaraq. Was Sasquatch fighting bill. Tamaraq was creating illusions making friends seem for. The real Tamaraq is hundreds of feet tall
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Originally posted by One Big Mob
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Handbook writer admitted th error at alphaflight.net

Regardless It goes against prior continuity and if it was actually Tanaraq why was he making Walter (who was in control) see friends as foes through illusions? Walter was in control enough he actually started to burst in tears of the one illusion of his friends getting killed

1. http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaFlight_5_0011.jpg

So yeah it was a Sasquatch possessed Walter, but not the real Tanaraq who was casting illusions on Walter. in the same story tanaraq was trapped in a cage in the realm of the beasts and was shown to be hundreds of feet tall

Lol alphaflight.net.

I have visions of Mungi being the sole owner AND reader, and it being styled like a Geocities page. Maybe Evanescence playing as you click on links.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol alphaflight.net.

I have visions of Mungi being the sole owner AND reader, and it being styled like a Geocities page. Maybe Evanescence playing as you click on links.

One can only dream.

It actually was pretty impressive site back in the day. as had a lot of marvel writers and artists posting there. Scott Kolins was great. Was similar to Bendis board jinxworld. There was even a thread where handbook writers were asking a bunch of questions and was the reason for a bunch of entry changes (questions about non AF related characters too). Now the board is a wasteland.

We need a MCU Alpha Flight movie. Make it happen Disney.

It's nearly impossible to predict how Superman's magic weakness will be portrayed by any given writer at any given time.

I would say that if we rate the fight without the magic weakness, to establish a baseline, lots of all-out versions of Superman have a chance, with many being favored.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Handbook writer admitted th error at alphaflight.net

Regardless It goes against prior continuity and if it was actually Tanaraq why was he making Walter (who was in control) see friends as foes through illusions? Walter was in control enough he actually started to burst in tears of the one illusion of his friends getting killed

1. http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaFlight_5_0011.jpg

So yeah it was a Sasquatch possessed Walter, but not the real Tanaraq who was casting illusions on Walter. in the same story tanaraq was trapped in a cage in the realm of the beasts and was shown to be hundreds of feet tall

Link?

Even if it did, why would this not be a retcon? Everything in the story, and the handbook says he got possessed. Merely seeing illusions doesn't provide the actual intentions. Especially when Tantan was sucked out of him and put in the pouch which when taken away took away the Wrecking Crew's power and had the demons in a tizzy. And as I know what you'll say, we just saw Tanaraq get killed by Guardian and it had zero effect on Sasquatch. So them trapping him in a pouch by absorbing him from Sassy doesn't seem to take away his powers, just as killing him wouldn't (even though it should, but doesn't).
We've seen Tanaraq dead once when Walter was also "dead". We still saw Snowbird able to take this form (and lose to Hulk) which still allowed the potential for Tantan to take over. Plus she also turned Wanda back into Walt which gave him original body back with no real explanation of how this worked, and what this meant for Tanaraq. There's really nothing written in stones with how this works. If somebody wants to write anything for Walter, that seems to be the new canon.

We have only really ever seen the full possession once before, and even then we never saw Walter's point of view in that instance. Is it possible he was shafted away in another dimension? Yes. Is it possible he was still kicking around inside somewhere? I think so, and the rest of the team knew this looked familar and thought he was still in there.

It's possible to make sense, but at worst it's a retcon of the thing that happened once 20 years ago. By all intentions it was possession. Maybe had they not sucked him out like a hooker blowjob from Sasquatch that immediately changed his facial features you could argue it was only illusions. It seemed pretty obvious it was intended to be possession, the illusions didn't seem to come into effect in that story with why it wouldn't be posession.

At work but will make a formal reply off but quick glance I don’t think you read the original post that was debated. It was said that was actually Tanaraq in the flesh fighting Bill. No one is debating walter wasn’t possessed but it actually being Tanaraq in the flesh.

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Originally posted by krisblaze
We got to see some pretty high end feats.

But mostly I feel like the only Tanaraq we've seen lately was in Exiles and he was absurdly powerful.

Tanaraq showed up in Omega Flight I think and looked pretty beastly there too.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
During Omega Flight, I thought Bill was messin him up pretty good. I think...

My reply was saying that wasn’t Tanaraq. It was a possessed Walter which is drastically different then real tanaraq

Wait when did snowbird lose to hulk? If it’s during when I think that was mortal snowbird (weakened) and nor did hulk beat snowbird or come close to it

Originally posted by -K-M-
At work but will make a formal reply off but quick glance I don’t think you read the original post that was debated. It was said that was actually Tanaraq in the flesh fighting Bill. No one is debating walter wasn’t possessed but it actually being Tanaraq in the flesh.

Original posts

My reply was saying that wasn’t Tanaraq. It was a possessed Walter which is drastically different then real tanaraq

My issue is that this was intended to be of a different level than the conceivable level Sasquatch can obtain in threads when Tanaraq possesses him (unless you give him time), just because illusions were created.
I'm saying that this was intended to be similar in level to when he was initially possessed in AF 23. I'm saying he was possessed, which is something you previously had issues with as I remember.

Whether or not it's the full power of Tanaraq is a different discussion, which I'm sure could be argued that he needs 20 minutes to get to full power. All I'm saying is that he was intended to be the same level as the prior possession (even though was full Tanaraq), and even though it was written slightly different, it doesn't make it completely different in intention. Otherwise you have to start assigning random levels to the whole two times it happened and act like he wasn't giving his all.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Wait when did snowbird lose to hulk? If it’s during when I think that was mortal snowbird (weakened) and nor did hulk beat snowbird or come close to it
I'd say beat. Though I could see it being inconclusive. Either way she directly says Hulk overpowered a Great Beast indicating that she was operating at that same level.
Alpha Flight 29. 5 issues after she killed Tanaraq possessed Sasquatch and a couple issues after they beat the Great Beasts in their realm.

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