Originally posted by quanchi112
If you make a claim you need to back it up. I cite evidence and you ignore it and insert fanfic. You're a clown.
You come with silly shit about Wolverine. "How close did he get" is your argument.
Magneto can use objects to swat Hulk far away and then put up his shield. How does Hulk stop this?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok so at the ring of the bell, Hulk launches himself at Magneto. Mags has about a second before he gets smashed. What does he do? Pretty sure we've never seen him put up a shield that fast. How fast can he fly? How good is Magneto at dodging?
Because Magneto will place himself at such a close range as to be killed/knocked out?
No, sir. Just........no.
Originally posted by SurturHulk closes the distance far quicker than wolverine. Watch the film. You can't just pretend someone slower and weaker can close the distance but the Hulk can't. Fanboys want to just powerset the argument and select the best environment for Magneto for him to even stand a chance. Hulk wins. Too fast, too strong, too much.
You come with silly shit about Wolverine. "How close did he get" is your argument.Magneto can use objects to swat Hulk far away and then put up his shield. How does Hulk stop this?
Originally posted by Impediment
Because Magneto will place himself at such a close range as to be killed/knocked out?No, sir. Just........no.
OP states 200 ft. That's a pretty easy leap for Hulk and I'm pretty sure Magneto isn't a highly skilled physical combatant that can easily dodge and duck around Hulk's attacks.
To clarify, I am not saying Hulk wins. I'm just saying it's foolish to think that Magneto has the time to grab the Eiffel tower and hurl it at Hulk.
This fight isn't as clear cut as some of you think it is.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk closes the distance far quicker than wolverine. Watch the film. You can't just pretend someone slower and weaker can close the distance but the Hulk can't. Fanboys want to just powerset the argument and select the best environment for Magneto for him to even stand a chance. Hulk wins. Too fast, too strong, too much.
Look I won't deny the dude can jump far and quick, but he's not a speedster. Magneto will be able to react.
Originally posted by FrothByte
OP states 200 ft. That's a pretty easy leap for Hulk and I'm pretty sure Magneto isn't a highly skilled physical combatant that can easily dodge and duck around Hulk's attacks.To clarify, I am not saying Hulk wins. I'm just saying it's foolish to think that Magneto has the time to grab the Eiffel tower and hurl it at Hulk.
This fight isn't as clear cut as some of you think it is.
Don't worry, Froth, I read you loud and clear. I think Magneto wins and giving reasons for such an opinion, but you're just coming from the other side giving reasons why Hulk might end it in the opening moments, which I agree could happen as well.
Good ol' fashioned debate, no probs.
Pretty much comes down to this:
- If Mags can quickdraw massive streams of metal at superspeeds like with Apoc only at Hulk, Mags wins.
- If Mags can swat away/constrain/throw/stop Hulk long enough to get his shield up and has time to unleash his magnetism fully, Hulk is a goner.
- If Hulk can close the distance and pummel Magneto in the opening moments, Mags is a goner.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes he can, but it will need to be some big-ass shit considering Hulk can easily walk through bullets and tear cars apart.
He will have shit nearby that could slow the guy down, he got way more powerful when boosted. When he got pissed off we saw how quickly he can throw a shit ton of metal at you. Hulk is strong and quick, but physics still somewhat applies to him. Except when it doesn't, I guess lol. But he could have something wrap around Hulks leg and fling him away.
I think if he knows what to expect he can keep Hulk away from him.
I think Hulk being in the air is a huge disadvantage to him anyways. It makes him way easier to bat away.
Magnetos part begins around 2 mins in.
Originally posted by John Murdoch
Don't worry, Froth, I read you loud and clear. I think Magneto wins and giving reasons for such an opinion, but you're just coming from the other side giving reasons why Hulk might end it in the opening moments, which I agree could happen as well.Good ol' fashioned debate, no probs.
Pretty much comes down to this:
- If Mags can quickdraw massive streams of metal at superspeeds like with Apoc only at Hulk, Mags wins.
- If Mags can swat away/constrain/throw/stop Hulk long enough to get his shield up and has time to unleash his magnetism fully, Hulk is a goner.
- If Hulk can close the distance and pummel Magneto in the opening moments, Mags is a goner.
Fair enough. I think if they knew what they were up against then Mags has the advantage. If they don't know a thing about each other then Hulk's strength and pure ferocity might be the end of Magneto.
Originally posted by RobtardCan magneto reform and go blow for blow ? What is this nonsense of focusing on power only and ignoring what iron man had to deal with during the fight as well as the hex coming off to reach some biased conclusion. Hulk wins. Magento watched his family die because some third world cops killed them by mistake mind you.
Hulk gets the Eiffel Tower up his ass and is KO'd with a smile on his face.FFS, Tony went toe-to-toe with a fully enraged Hulk and won. Apoc Mags is far more powerful than Tony in his HB armor
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wolverine is slower and weaker yet he almost closed the distance. Hulk wins. Facts matter.
Different situations. Magneto is going to be paying attention to the big green monster leaping at him. And you act like Hulk is a speedster now. He is not. He moves quickly for his size. Magneto swats him away and then puts up a shield.
Originally posted by SurturHulk is very fast. Look at him close the distance on the jet shooting at him while he's kicking Thor's ass. Magneto wasn't that fast to react to Wolverine so he's going to get his ass kicked by the Hulk.
Different situations. Magneto is going to be paying attention to the big green monster leaping at him. And you act like Hulk is a speedster now. He is not. He moves quickly for his size. Magneto swats him away and then puts up a shield.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Can magneto reform and go blow for blow ?What is this nonsense of focusing on power only and ignoring what iron man had to deal with during the fight as well as the hex coming off to reach some biased conclusion.
Hulk wins. Magento watched his family die because some third world cops killed them by mistake mind you.
Who cares if IM had to repair? That was the suit's powerset.
Focusing on film feats is debating in the MVF.
Nah. Not against Apoc Mags, in a metropolitan city no less where there's metal all around to use
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk is very fast. Look at him close the distance on the jet shooting at him while he's kicking Thor's ass. Magneto wasn't that fast to react to Wolverine so he's going to get his ass kicked by the Hulk.
Like I said, different situations. Magneto is amped, and he has nothing to distract him. Hulk won't get close lol. Either you didn't watch the movie or you just really love Hulk.
Originally posted by SurturI watched the film and know Hulk is faster than Wolverine and magneto didn't even kill him. Hulk is far more durable as well. He's going to run right through it.
Like I said, different situations. Magneto is amped, and he has nothing to distract him. Hulk won't get close lol. Either you didn't watch the movie or you just really love Hulk.