Android #17 vs Mystic Gohan

Originally posted by TheBadguy
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I refuse to believe the writing is so shit that gohan is God level
From playing tag with piccolo for a half hour

I ****ing refuse

The manga has to clarify this horse shit

I've been saying how that's bullshit writing ever since I saw the episode. Reaching that level just by training with Piccolo for a few minutes, the fuq? He basically had to be retaught how to fight too, if you recall how pathetic he became during RoF and up to that point, but all it takes is training some with Piccolo again (no RoSaT, no Whis training, etc) for him to not only make himself strong again but surpass his previous limits?

I was actually looking forward to how Gohan would eventually be reintroduced to the realm of fighting, but the anime just rushed it, and now we kinda just have to accept that he can tag with Blue form Goku without any Whis/God training or anything. Gary stu.

I am curious how the manga will differ there.

DBSuper's been bullshit since the very beginning, to be fair...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
DBSuper's been bullshit since the very beginning, to be fair...

How come when I say it, I'm a troll, but when you say it, not a word? 😠

I don't mention a certain failure of a character from DC Comics.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I don't mention a certain failure of a character from DC Comics.

...when have I ever mentioned Aquaman? 😕

😂

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
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I've been saying how that's bullshit writing ever since I saw the episode. Reaching that level just by training with Piccolo for a few minutes, the fuq? He basically had to be retaught how to fight too, if you recall how pathetic he became during RoF and up to that point, but all it takes is training some with Piccolo again (no RoSaT, no Whis training, etc) for him to not only make himself strong again but surpass his previous limits?

I was actually looking forward to how Gohan would eventually be reintroduced to the realm of fighting, but the anime just rushed it, and now we kinda just have to accept that he can tag with Blue form Goku without any Whis/God training or anything. Gary stu.

I am curious how the manga will differ there.

We don't know what type of training went on with Gohan and Piccolo. Remember, they have a room where time is almost at a halt.

Originally posted by carver9
We don't know what type of training went on with Gohan and Piccolo. Remember, they have a room where time is almost at a halt.

Also they were training in the mountains, far away from the Lookout.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I am curious how the manga will differ there.

Why is this even an argument? #17 was a joke back in the Cell saga, when compared to someone like MSSJ Goku or even Imperfect Cell.

He's clearly done some training or something, to the point where he is capable of forcing DBS Goku to resort to SSJ3, and still dominate him.

Can Gohan do that? Hell no, Gohan even during the ToP is hitting in the same league as Piccolo.

The showing of Base Goku > #17 from the anime only shows how much progress Goku has made since the beginning of the ToP. You could literally argue that Goku has gotten over 400X stronger since the ToP started, and it would make sense. Ignoring that context is crucial- because it would infer that base Goku > SSJ3 Goku, which is just plain stupid.

Base Goku current > SSJ3 Goku, when he recruited #17. Simple as that.

Regardless, #17 is clearly > Gohan. Gohan has been getting manhandled by people that even 4th form Frieza is one-shotting, and 4th form Frieza isn't even a challenge for base Goku.

Now that we have finally seen 17’s last stand, it’s funny yet sad at the same time how current Gohan wouldn’t even be a blip on his radar...