Originally posted by Robtard
The point: is that the Muslim Ban is supposed to keep us safe; this is what the Islamophobes sold it on, yet the countries/people on the ban haven't attacked us.
I still don't see how this relates to his particular story though. It just seems like a jab at pro ban people when it's irrelevant.
Well, if they are banning them, then it isn't as easy for them to attack us is it? lol It would stand to reason that attacks would now more likely come from a place where the people aren't banned correct?
Originally posted by socool8520
To be fair, he used a low tech bomb
Originally posted by socool8520
I still don't see how this relates to his particular story though. It just seems like a jab at pro ban people when it's irrelevant.Well, if they are banning them, then it isn't as easy for them to attack us is it? lol It would stand to reason that attacks would now more likely come from a place where the people aren't banned correct?
Except we've not been attacked from the countries that are banned...
Like Chad. Why is it on there and not Saudi Arabia? Can you explain.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Ah I see soWhite killer: GUN CONTROL!!!! WE HAVE TO DO SOOOMMMEEEETHHIIIINNNNGGG!!!!!
Non-white killer: Thoughts and prayers
Um, did you forget we have a travel ban targeting Muslims with the intent that its supposed to stop Islamic terrorist attacks? Surely you remember that?
Originally posted by Robtard
Except we've not been attacked from the countries that are banned...Like Chad. Why is it on there and not Saudi Arabia? Can you explain.
I'm sure it's quite political. Shady business dealings and such. Who knows?
I'm not for the ban by the way, I just simply didn't see it as a relevant point to this article.
Originally posted by Robtard
Do you even know what you're talking about anymore...Who is "they have attacked us" you're referring to specifically here?
I apologize if I misunderstood what you are saying. But you seemed to be saying we've never had anyone from any of the countries on the list of the travel ban attack us. This is not true. They have not killed anyone, but we have had non-lethal incidents. The people were stopped before they were able to kill.
Originally posted by Surtur
I apologize if I misunderstood what you are saying. But you seemed to be saying we've never had anyone from any of the countries on the list of the travel ban attack us. This is not true. They have not killed anyone, but we have had non-lethal incidents. The people were stopped before they were able to kill.
Interesting. Can you list these?
Cos I can tell you of one you might have heard of, it was pretty big. We refer to it as "9/11", where 15 Saudis, 2 UAE, 1 Egyptian and 1 Lebanese murdered nearly 3,000 people and did billions of dollars worth of damage.
BTW, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt and Lebanon are not on Trump's Muslim travel ban list.
Originally posted by Robtard
Interesting. Can you list these?Cos I can tell you of one you might have heard of, it was pretty big. We refer to it as "9/11", where 15 Saudis, 2 UAE, 1 Egyptian and 1 Lebanese murdered nearly 3,000 people and did billions of dollars worth of damage.
BTW, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt and Lebanon are not on Trump's Muslim travel ban list.
It's why politifact says it is only half true:
No terrorist attacks post 9/11 by people from countries in Trump's travel ban?
"However, there have been at least three non-deadly attacks in which the perpetrators were from Iran or Somalia, said John Mueller, a political scientist at Ohio State University, expert on terrorism and a senior fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute.
One of those examples includes the November 2016 attack at Ohio State University by a Somali refugee who had lived in Pakistan before coming to the United States. Abdul Razak Ali Artan, 18, was shot dead by a police officer after he slammed his car into pedestrians and injured others with a butcher knife. The FBI said it would investigate the attack as a "potential act of terrorism."
In September 2016, Dahir Adan was shot dead after stabbing nine people in a Minnesota shopping mall. Adan was identified by his father as Somali but born in Kenya, moving to the United States when he was a child."
[b]"Another incident was in 2006, when Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar ran a Jeep Cherokee into a crowd of people at his alma mater, the University of North Carolina. Thinking he would be killed during the attack, Taheri-Azar left a letter in his apartment saying he wanted revenge for the deaths of Muslims across the world caused by the United States, the AP reported. A naturalized citizen born in Iran, Taheri-Azar in 2008 plead guilty to nine counts of attempted first-degree murder and was sentenced for up to 33 years in prison."
It ends with:
"Experts on terrorism tell us that since 9/11 no one in the United States has been killed in a terrorist attack by someone from the seven countries for which Trump’s executive order temporarily suspends admission. Those countries are Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.
But there have been at least three non-deadly cases in which the perpetrator was connected to Iran or Somalia.
Nadler’s statement is partially accurate but leaves out important details. We rate it Half True."
Originally posted by Robtard
Okay, you've qualified Iran and Somalia with a half-truth. Kudos 👆The others on the list though? Like why Chad and not Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt or Lebanon, where people where actually murdered by people from those counties and not just botched attempts.
But there have been people who have attempted shit, is the point.
Why did Obama put the countries on the list?
From two counties...
HYG: http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/feb/07/reince-priebus/were-7-nations-identified-donald-trumps-travel-ban/ "Half Truth" also.
BTW, why didn't Trump list Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt or Lebanon?