After my first viewing, I liked the movie but was a little unsure overall. After the second viewing, my opinion on the movie lowered and now I'm just kind of wondering like, what is the point of this story? We've been through the fight against an oppressive Empire before. There's nothing really "new" happening except for tainting the accomplishments of the Rebellion and OT characters. I don't know, I want to like this trilogy (a lot) but it just feels so hollow.
^I mean those are my biggest gripes with the entire premise of the sequel trilogy. There is way too much hand waving involved to make the plot make sense. The New Republic happening to have their entire armada parked in the Hosnian system is a convenient way for Plotkiller base to reset the status quo with a single firing of its laser.
The First Order being able to sweep in and take over the galaxy in a matter of hours (days?)is retarded not to mention wildly inconsistent with the fact that most of these planets have militias (even Naboo a peaceful planet had a significant militia). When the Death Star destroyed Alderaan it galvanized the galaxy against the Empire, but Starkiller Base nukes the capital of this New Republic and they simper and are ready to bend the knee.
Political side effects have essentially been handwaved. They are so desperate to restore the status quo they have even abandoned calling the Resistance and calling them Rebels. Also...they keep saying they want to restore the Republic...soooo would they call it the New New Republic? Also totally unbelievable Leia would have zero allies in the Outer Rim to aide her. They could have at least added a line like "there are several fleets engaged in battle with the First Order".
What's quite interesting is that in spite of bulldozing through the legacy of the OT to mold the plot rather unnaturally or believably, they still managed to end up with a fairly convoluted movie.
Originally posted by Nephthys
One of those redpill pieces of shit who whines that feminazi's and SJW's are ruining their Star Wars. You're better than that.
In all seriousness nah, they haven't ruined Star Wars, but being redpilled to the bullshit of the neoprogressive movement doesn't make me a piece of shit.
I wasn't really bothered by any SJW messages in the movie as I didn't really see anything obvious. Yeah we had chubby Asian girl acting a bit bold and feminazi/Ellen captain Holdo, but I didn't see any imbalances in power. Rey didn't come off as a Mary Sue in this film.
Edit: was kinda irked by chubby cheeks kissing Finn. Not sure why they had to put that it in and it felt out of place for a SW film. The love stories between Han and Leia and Padme and Anakin were cringey enough. We don't need this casual love stuff.
Originally posted by Kurk
I wasn't really bothered by any SJW messages in the movie as I didn't really see anything obvious. Yeah we had chubby Asian girl acting a bit bold and feminazi/Ellen captain Holdo, but I didn't see any imbalances in power. Rey didn't come off as a Mary Sue in this film.Edit: was kinda irked by chubby cheeks kissing Finn. Not sure why they had to put that it in and it felt out of place for a SW film. The love stories between Han and Leia and Padme and Anakin were cringey enough. We don't need this casual love stuff.
At least the former two had some kind of buildup, this one came out from nowhere! They could have at least worked on it a little bit.
Terrible movie. It wasn't just a shit Star Wars movie but a terrible one in general. Like wtf? I've seen plenty of movies that I thought were somewhat terrible but I could sit through and had some good parts like JLA, but this was legit crap. Terrible writing, poor script, pointless side plots, huge plot holes and don't even get me started on the shitting of everything Star Wars holds dear.
I was half expecting the Admiral to turn to the screen and scold the audience on how fictional male heroes who are badass and live up to the high ideals we expect of them are stupid. Everything we liked about Star Wars is stupid. We need to let it all go and burn. It's time for something new. There is no place for legacies, a nobody is special. The old ways are dead, perfect male heroes we aspire to aren't real and it's time to accept that. Such a deep movie with a sound analysis. **** off. It's like something a second year film year came up and thought was ground breaking.
Spoiler:I want my 2.5 hours back. I WISH I liked this movie, I'm jealous of those who did. I'm almost upset I didn't enjoy this POS. I don't understand how it's possible some do but some people also enjoy getting suffocated, I've learned that sometimes people are just odd.
It was a Star Wars movie without a single light sabre fight and had Leia fly through outer space like Superman. Not a SINGLE one! Wtf?
I'm trying to look for positives but it doesn't even have
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a single lightsabre fight. I can overlook all the other shit like the lack of world building, the lack of grandeur that you feel in Star Wars (No longer this massive Galaxy far far away a long time ago with many intricate parts coming together) but it didn't have a single lightsabre fight in a movie with Luke (And they shit on his character). Someone explain that to me. WTH man. And the one fight we had was so meh. I would also like to remind people Rey has known about the Force for less than two weeks right? Wow, I wish my parents were nobody junkies so I could also prove that in a world built on of legacies and powerful last names, humble beginnings can lead to greatness. This old hierarchies of the patriarchal society need to go. So deep, so thought provoking, it's making me reflect on the real world. God forbid we want to escape and watch a fantasy epic of a great hero with a powerful legacy overcoming evil. Smh. **** off.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusSaying they wish they had their 2 and a half hours back is being pretty dramatic. I suggest rewatching it because it improves on rewatches. I'm not saying this film is perfect and I wouldn't have went in a different direction but it boldly went someone completely brand spanking new. And every single line uttered by Snoke was delivered with perfect execution. Snoke has THE greatest Star Wars voice to date IMO.
Can people not simply think a movie is garbage without it being labeled overreaction?