Kylo Ren vs. Luke Skywalker (RotJ)

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure which TLJ you people watched, but Luke had Kylo beat: when Luke slid under Kylo's attack, Luke could have easily struck out and killed Kylo as Kylo idiotically left himself open due to his emo-rage. This is a fact.

There's also the fact that Kylo didn't want to initially face Luke, why he ordered the barrage and only went out to face Luke after that seemingly failed.

Why would Kylo risk it all engaging him in a duel if not necessary. He did get out to face him so he was not scared. Kylo is more polished and has raw strength which Luke marveled at. Both Kylo and Rey and this entire trilogy shits on the Ot in terms of power.

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Nope, it's a fact because we literally see Kylo leave himself wide open with his high-strike and Luke sliding under it like a boss. Luke had him, if he wished. But Disney was mimicking the Obi Vs Vader scene in ep4.

Rey will defo become the most powerful, it's what Disney is going for, said it before. Luke had one of the greatest Force-feats on film in ep8, Force-projecting himself physically across the galaxy; so you're not correct there either.

Originally posted by Robtard
Nope, it's a fact because we literally see Kylo leave himself wide open with his high-strike and Luke sliding under it like a boss. The film is fact.

Rey will defo become the most powerful, it's what Disney is going for, said it before. Luke had one of the greatest Force-feats on film in ep8, so you're not correct there either.

She will be Kylo's counterpart. The light to meet his darkness. Kylo is already more skilled. Snoke is the most powerful since she was abused by Snoke.

I've said Disney is going bigger and better in all aspects since this came out.

Snoke>Palpatine
Kylo>Vader
Rey>Luke from OT
Luke>Yoda from OT
First Order>Empire
Dameron>Han

Already explained, but you're doing your thing

Originally posted by Robtard
Already explained, but you're doing your thing

Originally posted by quanchi112
I wonder if your grammar will ever improve. Nah, I know it won't.

Hope it doesn't, cause you barely manage to cope with me.

Originally posted by Robtard
Already explained, but you're doing your thing

COME ON!!! HE IS QUAN!!

....EXPECTED!....

Originally posted by Robtard
Luke had one of the greatest Force-feats on film in ep8, Force-projecting himself physically across the galaxy; so you're not correct there either.

Id say that’s THE Greatest Force feat.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Id say that’s THE Greatest Force feat.

I agree.

Kylo

Luke wins. Winning against Vader is better than any combat feat Kylo has so far.

Originally posted by playa1258
Luke wins. Winning against Vader is better than any combat feat Kylo has so far.

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Luke.

Kylo doesn't seem very good at lightsaber duels. Rey beat him pretty easily in TFA and he even struggled against Finn - someone who has no experience or force powers.

In the battle in TLJ Luke was toying with Kylo the whole time. Rob's absolutely right, had it been an actual battle Luke had a big opening to take out Kylo.

OP is using Luke from RotJ not TLJ

Oh right.

Well even then he is probably better than Kylo.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hope it doesn't, cause you barely manage to cope with me.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Id say that’s THE Greatest Force feat.

Originally posted by BackFire
Oh right.

Well even then he is probably better than Kylo.

Luke said he'd only felt a power like Rey's once before and he was referring to Kylo. That tells us that Kylo is superior to Luke in power. Luke was still pretty inexperienced in RotJ too. He might outskill Kylo in TLJ but RotJ Luke loses

Originally posted by juggerman
Luke said he'd only felt a power like Rey's once before and he was referring to Kylo. That tells us that Kylo is superior to Luke in power. Luke was still pretty inexperienced in RotJ too. He might outskill Kylo in TLJ but RotJ Luke loses

feeling power inside = potential power

just because Luke sensed something in Kylo doesn't mean that Ben could summon that power at will; Luke is still far superior to Ren as evidenced when he toyed with him in their brief lightsaber encounter.

Originally posted by juggerman
Luke said he'd only felt a power like Rey's once before and he was referring to Kylo. That tells us that Kylo is superior to Luke in power. Luke was still pretty inexperienced in RotJ too. He might outskill Kylo in TLJ but RotJ Luke loses

What? No. He was talking about “potential” dark side power. Or did you miss the part where he says she didn’t even TRY to stop herself.