Alan has jammed his ring before, I assume he could do it again.
Originally posted by cdtm
Using the only test that matters:Batman talks shit to Hal Jordan all the time. As he does Superman, Guy, Spectre..
Batman has never, ever messed with Alan Scott. And he's had opportunities.
When you're the guy Batman knows better then to mess with, you've got my vote. 👆
Assuming no special amps, and the versions specified, the main difference between the two of them is power v. versatility. There are esoteric feats Hal has (and frankly, Kyle too) that Alan doesn't. But Alan's top-end power feats are > other GLs, though the gap is smaller between him and other tier 1 GLs like Hal. Hal possesses equivalent or better power feats, but it's been under some sort of significant amp, like when he decked Alan (and others) as Parallax.
In a head-to-head fight, this difference matters. Because in a tourney where you'd probably prefer, say, 80% of the raw power of Alan, but 40% more versatility feats, in a fight between the two, the esoteric stuff drops off a bit, because it's reasonable to assume Alan can at least counter it, and will eventually make it about raw willpower. And in that regard, he has few to no equals in comics. It's a variant on the same reason Thor gets drafted in tourneys more than Superman, despite the fact that Kal would beat him straight-up.
Originally posted by Digi
Assuming no special amps, and the versions specified, the main difference between the two of them is power v. versatility. There are esoteric feats Hal has (and frankly, Kyle too) that Alan doesn't. But Alan's top-end power feats are > other GLs, though the gap is smaller between him and other tier 1 GLs like Hal. Hal possesses equivalent or better power feats, but it's been under some sort of significant amp, like when he decked Alan (and others) as Parallax.In a head-to-head fight, this difference matters. Because in a tourney where you'd probably prefer, say, 80% of the raw power of Alan, but 40% more versatility feats, in a fight between the two, the esoteric stuff drops off a bit, because it's reasonable to assume Alan can at least counter it, and will eventually make it about raw willpower. And in that regard, he has few to no equals in comics. It's a variant on the same reason Thor gets drafted in tourneys more than Superman, despite the fact that Kal would beat him straight-up.
Thor is a different type of character than Superman. He may be more popular in tournaments but when it comes to being the top dog, Superman is almost always going to beat pretty much everyone.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Disagree, Hal has at least as good feats of power as Alan. And Alan has himself said Hal has no equals when it comes to willpower.Thor is a different type of character than Superman. He may be more popular in tournaments but when it comes to being the top dog, Superman is almost always going to beat pretty much everyone.
Agreed on willpower, not on power feats. It's close, but I think Alan's are better.
There's no "may" about it with tourney popularity. Thor's basically the most successful character in tourney history, on balance. I did say he loses to Supes 1-v-1 though, so I don't think we're in any disagreement.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Digi, did you just try to say Alan has more willpower than Hal?
Mm, that may not be the exact way it should be phrased. So no, I wouldn't make this claim. But I do think his best raw power feats trump Hal's (sans amps). Doesn't mean his willpower is greater, necessarily, but I do think it would be the deciding factor in this (very, very close) fight.
Originally posted by Digi
Agreed on willpower, not on power feats. It's close, but I think Alan's are better.There's no "may" about it with tourney popularity. Thor's basically the most successful character in tourney history, on balance. I did say he loses to Supes 1-v-1 though, so I don't think we're in any disagreement.
Not really. The same guy who wrote most of Alan's better feats wanked Hal to hell and further.
Krona buster remains the strongest energy blast from any herald, even godblast.