Kylo Ren is a better villain than Darth Vader

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Ren only beat a force projection that was being channelled through a phucking galaxy. Luke ended up dying from it ffs, that should tell you Skywalker wasn't able to use all of his power in that fight.

And even then Kylo was getting his shit pushed in lmao.

Originally posted by zeel
[QUOTE=16468145]Originally posted by quanchi112
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Quanchi stop being dumb. This movie was so poorly written that ben killed the sith lord by essentially snapping his fingers.

Ren is a cool character, but to date his force abilities are at best mediocre. In all honesty every force wielding character in this movie minus Rey looked incredibly weak. And the fact that Rey is showing a lot of strength with the force considering she has no training is beyond stupid.

Ren looked incredibly powerful but your perceptions aren't factual so you need to let it go. We have seen non force users challenge force users before. These were eight of his personal guards which is far better in the grand scheme of things than Jango Fett taking Kenobi on by himself.

Rey was trained by Luke and don't act like this hasn't happened before in the Ot's with Luke himself. This isn't a new precedent.

Both Emo Ren and Emperor wannabe Snoke "The Joke"are horrible in comparison to their counterparts.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Both Emo Ren and Emperor wannabe Snoke "The Joke"are horrible in comparison to their counterparts.

But what about them do you prefer. Let's discuss.

Its obvious that these is a Troll Thread!

So here it goes:

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Lets admit Kylo would make a whole better as a Grandma fan! 😂

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Both Emo Ren and Emperor wannabe Snoke "The Joke"are horrible in comparison to their counterparts.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Its obvious that these is a Troll Thread!

So here it goes:

https://goo.gl/images/5U7TWV

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Lets admit Kylo would make a whole better as a Grandma fan! 😂

OMG! So Lame!!!

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Yes, you are.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He beat Luke Skywalker.

That wasn’t a fight you Troll.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That wasn’t a fight you Troll.

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Your double standards are nauseating tbh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not much of one, no. Blame Luke for not being able to get it up.

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Your double standards are nauseating tbh.

There’s no double standards. That wasn’t a fight. Luke knew Ren was about to attack but begged him not to.

Snoke has no idea Ben was about to attack because he wasn’t that powerful. It was only a matter of time before Ben overthrew him.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
There’s no double standards. That wasn’t a fight. Luke knew Ren was about to attack but begged him not to.

Snoke has no idea Ben was about to attack because he wasn’t that powerful. It was only a matter of time before Ben overthrew him.

So a guy who is being arrogant (we also don't know what happens in episode nine) and isn't defending himself is an I dictator while another guy has his lightsaber armed and perfectly aware doesn't count. You're a joke tbh.

We see Ben engage him earlier in the film and Snoke easily subdued him. Snoke's power was well above Kylo who is Rey's equal in force power. This isn't up for debate, troll.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So begging someone not to do something and to get beat is whose fault. Luke's. Defend yourself it's ingrained into human beings.

So a guy who is being arrogant (we also don't know what happens in episode nine) and isn't defending himself is an I dictator while another guy has his lightsaber armed and perfectly aware doesn't count. You're a joke tbh.

We see Ben engage him earlier in the film and Snoke easily subdued him. Snoke's power was well above Kylo who is Rey's equal in force power. This isn't up for debate, troll.

We see he purposefully doesn’t defend himself. You’re just trying to lowball Luke but no ones buying it.

All Sith/Dark Siders are arrogant. Yet Palpatine survived 3 different apprentices, and when he finally got caught took his apprenrice with him. Unlike Snoke who clearly just wasn’t that good in comparison to his apprentice.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
We see he purposefully doesn’t defend himself. You’re just trying to lowball Luke but no ones buying it.

All Sith/Dark Siders are arrogant. Yet Palpatine survived 3 different apprentices, and when he finally got caught took his apprenrice with him. Unlike Snoke who clearly just wasn’t that good in comparison to his apprentice.

Completely irrelevant. We don't know anything about Snoke's history you insecure and over reactive baboon. Ben Solo's ambitions are far greater than Vader's who wasn't even a true Sith. He was a Jedi. Snoke knew to kill the true Jedi. Sidious was some **** who realized Luke's power but tried to turn a true Jedi in hilarious failure which ended up turning Vader in the process.

Sidious was humiliated by Windu who is far weaker in the force than Yoda or Luke Skywalker. Just deal with it already. Snoke is the most powerful force user thus far.

Yes because he didn’t want to fight his nephew. How dumb are you?

Oooh someone’s butthurt over Snoke not being the new and improved Palpatine like he was hoping.

Mace Windu was the 2nd most powerful Jedi of the Order at its peak, went in with back up that was quickly dispatched and still just barely lost a Saber battle. Snoke isn’t even capable of engaging in a Saber battle and needs a dozen guards to back him on that. Windu would utterly crush Snoke. Maul is a better comparison for Snoke, but even against Maul, Snoke would still have serious trouble in a Saber fight without his guards.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes because he didn’t want to fight his nephew. How dumb are you?

Oooh someone’s butthurt over Snoke not being the new and improved Palpatine like he was hoping.

Mace Windu was the 2nd most powerful Jedi of the Order at its peak, went in with back up that was quickly dispatched and still just barely lost a Saber battle. Snoke isn’t even capable of engaging in a Saber battle and needs a dozen guards to back him on that. Windu would utterly crush Snoke. Maul is a better comparison for Snoke, but even against Maul, Snoke would still have serious trouble in a Saber fight without his guards.

He definitely was. He was far more powerful, had a better ship in the Supremacy, had a more powerful wom in Starkiller, and had superior artillery, tech across the board.

So a weaker force user was able to resist the power of Sidious. He was soundly defeated in a fair duel between the two. Snoke doesn't need to use a lightsaber which is more impressive than needing to use one. That's how dominant he is which is truly special.

Speculation. He didn't need his guards to subdue Ren or utterly rape Rey. Quit hyperventilating. It's ok that Snoke is the most powerful but this really hurts you. Awesome. Luke turned out to be the coward I claimed he was. I hope that hurt you too. Snoke rapes Windu or Maul IMO.

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D. Thor conceded the points. Victory is mine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
had a better ship

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This is what you’re argument is reduced to.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
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This is what you’re argument is reduced to.