Deathstroke (Ikon suit) vs Son Goku

Started by carver94 pages

But he did destroys Galaxies though...lol, this was actually shown.

Originally posted by carver9
But he did destroys Galaxies though...lol, this was actually shown.

Nope!
He destroyed the planets one by one to the point that he you can reasonably assume he destroyed all planets in a galaxy. No where was it stated he destroyed an entire galaxy in one attack. If Superman goes around destroy one planet at a time, would you suddenly call him a solar system buster? Of course not!

This is the problem with DBZ. You have characters stating idiotic things such as, Kamehameha can destroy a solar system but then when we do see it hit a planet, it does does not do the stated damage

SSJ3 Goku only managed to blow up a city when he accidentally missed Fat Buu.

Lol... you're arguing against characters that can destroy Universes with their punches. You need to catch back up with everything because you are behind. Far behind to be debating in a thread like this.

Vegeta hasn't destroyed a single universe. Nor has Goku.

da fuk you kids smokin? master roshi can destroy the moon, what makes you guys think deathstroke can even kill yamcha?

Originally posted by MrMind
da fuk you kids smokin? master roshi can destroy the moon, what makes you guys think deathstroke can even kill yamcha?
I get what you're saying, but let's not fly off the handle here. EVERYTHING can kill Yamcha.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... you're arguing against characters that can destroy Universes with their punches. You need to catch back up with everything because you are behind. Far behind to be debating in a thread like this.

No, you're just talking out of your ass

There hasn't been one instance in DBZ where a character was able to destroy a universe, or galaxy. Whatever you think you saw, it's probably a vivid imagination of yours or mistake on your part.
Kid Buu never destroyed a galaxy. He only destroyed a planet. Go read chapter 510 page 1.

Whatever you ****** think you saw is likely some filler garbage that was added. Furthermore, even in the filler episodes, it's specifically stated and shown that he destroys hundreds of planets then regenerated with a time lapse shown.

This is the same garbage that idiots tried to pull with Brolly. Dude never destroyed a galaxy in one hit. He only, like Buu did it over time.

By your standards, anyone who can destroy a planet in one hit is a skyfather level.....

As for the current DB Super, I'm up to date. It's garbage in terms of consistency with powers. Majority if filled with inconsistencies for the shock and awe. It makes even less sense than DB GT. No, not even in DB Super have any of the DBZ characters (Vegeta, Goku..etc) have done anything approaching galaxy busting level.

only thing we know is that Zeno can and did destroy a universe. but zeno is considered to be the most powerful being and everybody are terrifies of him. so someone who can destroy a universe is by far above goku and even the gods of destruction. we also know, that 100% frieza and ssj1 goku could destroy a planet. if we use mathematics and consider how much more powerful latest goku became, we still cant know if he can lets say bust a galaxy because how much exactly do you need to be more powerful than a planet buster in order to bust a galaxy? we dont even know if gods of destruction can destroy more than a planet. we saw beerus destroy a planet thats it. its hard to say much

Originally posted by Dareangel
only thing we know is that Zeno can and did destroy a universe. but zeno is considered to be the most powerful being and everybody are terrifies of him. so someone who can destroy a universe is by far above goku and even the gods of destruction. we also know, that 100% frieza and ssj1 goku could destroy a planet. if we use mathematics and consider how much more powerful latest goku became, we still cant know if he can lets say bust a galaxy because how much exactly do you need to be more powerful than a planet buster in order to bust a galaxy? we dont even know if gods of destruction can destroy more than a planet. we saw beerus destroy a planet thats it. its hard to say much

Zeno also got tired from holding his arms up, and couldn't keep up with the Gods of Destruction show.

He, more then anyone else, is likely a glass cannon. Just kill him before he can blow up a universe.

Originally posted by MrMind
da fuk you kids smokin? master roshi can destroy the moon, what makes you guys think deathstroke can even kill yamcha?

Dragon Ball characters are what you call "glass cannons". Too much evidence that they could be injured/hurt/killed by far less them planet busting and up, just like Wonder Woman can be hurt by a bullet in some showings.

Trust me on this, I'm an expert. Nobody is a bigger fan of Dragon Ball then I.

Originally posted by Dareangel
only thing we know is that Zeno can and did destroy a universe. but zeno is considered to be the most powerful being and everybody are terrifies of him. so someone who can destroy a universe is by far above goku and even the gods of destruction. we also know, that 100% frieza and ssj1 goku could destroy a planet. if we use mathematics and consider how much more powerful latest goku became, we still cant know if he can lets say bust a galaxy because how much exactly do you need to be more powerful than a planet buster in order to bust a galaxy? we dont even know if gods of destruction can destroy more than a planet. we saw beerus destroy a planet thats it. its hard to say much

I know all about freeza being able to destroy a planet. I know all the silly calculations fans have used. It just doesn’t work with DBZ. I blame the author even more for this. He tries to use numbers but a dozen chapters later he either forgets or pretends he didn’t say it

A SSJ3 Kamehameha should destroy a planet but we saw what happened when the actual Beam hit the planet...it blew up an entire city. These example are far too nemerous to try and dismiss. It’s a lot like how some writers state one thing in their books then in interviews try and completely retcon the meaning.

Zeno is the equivalent of god in the show. He can destroy universes and he was already shown to destroy universes. I’ll wait and see how the this ends; I would be surprised if suddenly Goku managed to hurt Zeno...the writer has lost his head.

Originally posted by Dareangel
only thing we know is that Zeno can and did destroy a universe. but zeno is considered to be the most powerful being and everybody are terrifies of him. so someone who can destroy a universe is by far above goku and even the gods of destruction. we also know, that 100% frieza and ssj1 goku could destroy a planet. if we use mathematics and consider how much more powerful latest goku became, we still cant know if he can lets say bust a galaxy because how much exactly do you need to be more powerful than a planet buster in order to bust a galaxy? we dont even know if gods of destruction can destroy more than a planet. we saw beerus destroy a planet thats it. its hard to say much

Zeno destroyed 12 Universes in one attack and the energy carried over to a different timeline. Goku and Beerus punching power was about to destroy the Universe along with outside dimensions in 3 attacks and it melted the sun and turned planets to ash with just the shockwaves from said punches. It seems like a lot of people here are clueless.

JLKING...

No matter how much you don't like it, Canon material has said that Gohan at super Saiyan 2 can and could have destroyed the solar system during his fight against Cell.

Originally posted by carver9
Zeno destroyed 12 Universes in one attack and the energy carried over to a different timeline. Goku and Beerus punching power was about to destroy the Universe along with outside dimensions in 3 attacks and it melted the sun and turned planets to ash with just the shockwaves from said punches. It seems like a lot of people here are clueless.

yes, i agreed that zeno can destroy a universe. goku and beerus punching power is bullshit. when they punched with same strength near the planet itself nothing happened. those are hyperbole statements. there is a probelm with taking DBZ statements seriously. for example, goku red and beerus fought, then beerus got mad and said he is going 100% and looked pissed. later on whis says beerus didnt go full power. goku red was clashing with beerus and causing him trouble, but at the tournament of power everybody and their grandma are whiping their feet on goku red he is completely useless. so is beerus that weak? too many things just dont make sense

The Ikon Suit will not change the outcome...

Goku can beat him without much problem.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
The Ikon Suit will not change the outcome...

Goku can beat him without much problem.

Prometheum sword up the tailpipe ftw.

Vegeta gets it there often enough, should go in nice and easy. 👆

Originally posted by carver9
JLKING...

No matter how much you don't like it, Canon material has said that Gohan at super Saiyan 2 can and could have destroyed the solar system during his fight against Cell.


And on panel evidence shows otherwise. We saw a superior from SSJ 3 only destroy a major city with a Kamehameha.

Whatever was stated was wrong. It’s called hyperbole. Statements are fine to use but when on panel actual evidence contradict the statement, it has to be dismissed

Don’t act like a child. Either show prove of these statement or admit you can’t.

Originally posted by Dareangel
yes, i agreed that zeno can destroy a universe. goku and beerus punching power is bullshit. when they punched with same strength near the planet itself nothing happened. those are hyperbole statements. there is a probelm with taking DBZ statements seriously. for example, goku red and beerus fought, then beerus got mad and said he is going 100% and looked pissed. later on whis says beerus didnt go full power. goku red was clashing with beerus and causing him trouble, but at the tournament of power everybody and their grandma are whiping their feet on goku red he is completely useless. so is beerus that weak? too many things just dont make sense

Lol... of course nothing happened to EARTH, think about it for a second. We did see suns and planets melt though.

We clearly see the shockwaves affecting the Universe. Also Beerus admitted he was holding back his power against Goku so I'm unsure what you are trying to say here. The people that are besting Goku, lol, that tells us that they are just as powerful or more powerful. Also, who are these people that are beating him?

Question, do you know what holding back mean?

@JL King,

Are you implying Master Roshi Kameha is more powerful than Super Saiyan 3 Goku Kameha? Are you literally using collateral damage as an argument? You're better than this. Galactus exerted his energy blasting at Thanos shielding and it didn't even destroy a portion of the room. Galactus, less than room level for the win. He fought two peers on a planet and didn't even graze the dirt up under their ft while going all out. Galactus isn't even planetary. Anyways, Canon source>>>JL King source. There's no going against this.

@JL King...

Is Thor and Superman planetary level and if so, why? Can they destroy a planet? Is Wonder Woman even city level? Is Black Adam moon level in power? What about Captain Marvel? Is he city destroying level? Darkseid, what level is he?