1/6/2018 - #3B (Ranking THREE, Round TWO) - Most Powerful Tournament - VOTE!

WHO IS THE #3 MOST POWERFUL CHARACTER?

CONTENDERS:

a.) Valkorion
b.) Anakin Skywalker / Darth Vader (pre-suit)

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BACKGROUND AND RULES: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t649092.html.

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REMINDER: All characters are strictly in their Legends incarnation and are at peak combative (not potential) capabilities under normal conditions (no external amplifies or other temporary boosts are to be considered). All characters are at peak mental mindset while maintaining an accurate portrayal of their mindset and beliefs (morals on). Lightsaber skill and related abilities (such as physical strength, speed, etc.) is to be considered if relevant.

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VOTE!

Valkorion.

Valkorion.

Mainly because I'm going to argue for a KF!Vader no.1 spot retry.

Anakin. He scales either above or in the same tier as RotS Sidious, who scales above EoTPM Sidious, who scales astronomically* above peak Plagueis, who scales above pre-balance shift Plagueis, who:

- presents a cosmic threat to the Force itself through sheer force of will to the point where the Force creates the Jesus of the Star Wars universe to stop him.
- psychically contacts every being in the galaxy (100 quadrillion+) simultaneously.
- creates massive year+ long winters on Naboo just through a brief visit
- scales above Tenebrous, who scales above Tenebrous's master, who pierced the galaxy-wide light side blanket cast by the entire Jedi Order
- scales above every Sith who came before him via the blurb, and implicitly above peak Vitiate as Plagueis is aware of his existence, considers him a Sith, and thinks he is more powerful than him (after careful consideration upon which he had earlier thought he wasn't the most powerful yet).
(more will be on a forthcoming post by Azronger)

* Sidious's power boost following Plagueis's death was so massive it was described as rearranging the orbits of the planets and stars.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
- psychically contacts every being in the galaxy (100 quadrillion+) simultaneously.

Valkorion.

Valkorion, because this should be Yoda and I sure as shit am not giving into this KF!Vader wank. This nigga is the new Marka Ragnos.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Can you quote me?

And so he had stretched out—indeed, as if invisible, transubstantiated—to inform every being of his existence, and impact all of them: Muunoid or insectoid, secure or dispossessed, free or enslaved. A warrior waving a banner in triumph on a battlefield. A ghost infiltrating a dream.

But ultimately to no end. The Force grew silent, as if in flight from him, and many of the animals in his laboratory succumbed to horrifying diseases.
Darth Plagueis

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Anakin. He scales either above or in the same tier as RotS Sidious, who scales above EoTPM Sidious, who scales astronomically* above peak Plagueis, who scales above pre-balance shift Plagueis, who:

- presents a cosmic threat to the Force itself through sheer force of will to the point where the Force creates the Jesus of the Star Wars universe to stop him.
- psychically contacts every being in the galaxy (100 quadrillion+) simultaneously.
- creates massive year+ long winters on Naboo just through a brief visit
- scales above Tenebrous, who scales above Tenebrous's master, who pierced the galaxy-wide light side blanket cast by the entire Jedi Order
- scales above every Sith who came before him via the blurb, and implicitly above peak Vitiate as Plagueis is aware of his existence, considers him a Sith, and thinks he is more powerful than him (after careful consideration upon which he had earlier thought he wasn't the most powerful yet).
(more will be on a forthcoming post by Azronger)

* Sidious's power boost following Plagueis's death was so massive it was described as rearranging the orbits of the planets and stars.

Hard to argue with that tbh

@Skillz: Can you explain how that makes sense? The Jedi were clearly not aware of Plagueis' existence.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@Skillz: Can you explain how that makes sense? The Jedi were clearly not aware of Plagueis' existence.

The force didn't allow Plagueis to do it, as shown by "the force growing silent, as if in flight from him"

So then how's that a feat? It doesn't necessarily mean he was capable of doing it - just he attempted to do it.

Elm's post implied he was successful, also.

Well, the quote says that he did indeed "stretch out" across the galaxy, just to no end.

It's implied that Plagueis was capable of it, but that the force would not allow it, not that he couldn't. imo anyway.

Revan, Caedus, Krayt, Kun, etc. have powers that can stretch out across the galaxy. That doesn't necessitate that he stretched out with the full potency of speaking to every being ever.

It says that he was going to "inform" them all of his presence, and that he was going to "impact" them all. Seems like it could be different tbh.

It's a feat of a caliber that I'm not going to assume Plagueis was capable of just based on the fact he wanted to try to do it, especially since the novel doesn't heavily imply Plagueis was capable of it anyway - as demonstrated by the fact that this novel has been our for many years now and this "feat" has only come to prominence in the last several weeks or months.

Valkorion.

Anakin walks through his lightning and cuts him apart.

I'll wait for Azronger's thread on Plagueis.

Originally posted by samappo
Hard to argue with that tbh

I take that as an official vote for Anakin?