In regards solely to power and destructive capability, Vitiate/Valk are above Plagueis, but in regards to combat, Plagueis is better just because he's way more well rounded. Not saying I think he could best Vitiate, but in a general sense, Plagueis is a better combatant. I find that to be a reasonable middle ground.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
You assume that the rate of sentient insectoids is comparable to the insect : human rate on earth.
That's only because we don't have more precise estimates. It's just a way to provide a rough picture of the amount of organisms Plagueis would have touched with his mind.
Originally posted by darthbane77
In regards solely to power and destructive capability, Vitiate/Valk are above Plagueis, but in regards to combat, Plagueis is better just because he's way more well rounded. Not saying I think he could best Vitiate, but in a general sense, Plagueis is a better combatant. I find that to be a reasonable middle ground.
How is Valkorion more powerful and possessing of more destructive capacity again?
Originally posted by AzrongerAs you mentioned in the thread, his draining of Ziost, which he did while in a severely weakened state, and seemed to do with little to no difficulty. That's a planet level feat performed at significantly below full power, on top of that, he was one-shotting small ships through the Outlander during Arcann's invasion of Asylum.
How is Valkorion more powerful and possessing of more destructive capacity again?
Plagueis doesn't really have anything suggesting he has the ability to perform planet level feats all on his lonesome, and that's supported by the fact that he has never come close to doing so.
Originally posted by darthbane77
As you mentioned in the thread, his draining of Ziost, which he did while in a severely weakened state, and seemed to do with little to no difficulty. That's a planet level feat performed at significantly below full power, on top of that, he was one-shotting small ships through the Outlander during Arcann's invasion of Asylum.Plagueis doesn't really have anything suggesting he has the ability to perform planet level feats all on his lonesome, and that's supported by the fact that he has never come close to doing so.
As Azronger pointed out, Plagueis can't possibly do Ziost without alerting the Jedi Order to his presence. That's why his feats are so subtle, but when you view them carefully they're far more profound than Valkorion's IMHO.
Case in point: Vitiate with a thousand years of work makes the Dark Temple and maybe DK into a stronger nexus, while Plagueis and Sidious with a month of meditation tip the entire f*cking galaxy to the dark side and make the Force create Anakin in retaliation.