Originally posted by KingD19
Not by the definition of the word. If he forced himself on her then yeah its rape. If she chose to have sexy with him because he had blackmail...its just blackmail and extortion. She simply could have refused and he wouldn't have touched her.
Well, looking into it, I suppose there is some grey are due to the different legal definitions of consent.
Originally posted by KingD19Legally it's rape. You're making someone have sex with you against their will.
Not by the definition of the word. If he forced himself on her then yeah its rape. If she chose to have sexy with him because he had blackmail...its just blackmail and extortion. She simply could have refused and he wouldn't have touched her.
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Very interested in this shit after reading some critiques call it 'better than Daredevil'.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Legally it's rape. You're making someone have sex with you against their will.--------------
Very interested in this shit after reading some critiques call it 'better than Daredevil'.
He didn't make her though, that's the thing. Coercion and blackmail and all that twist your arm, but it's not the same as him holding her down and taking it. It's her choosing to give him what he wants to save herself from her information getting out. She could have simply said no and dealt with the consequences of him extorting her.
Morally its rape. Legally its blackmail/extortion that led to a sexual encounter.
No matter how you feel about it, it's not rape because he didn't actually rape her. Now if he took her down to his dolphin rape cave and held her underwater until she passed out then did the deed...that's rape. Saying "I'll do this and this with your info if you dont have sex with me" is coercion, blackmail, extortion, etc... But he didn't physically force her against her will.
Stop making me defend what rape is, because it feels weird. Bottom line though, not rape in the eyes of the law.
Originally posted by KingD19It depends on where you're from.
He didn't make her though, that's the thing. Coercion and blackmail and all that twist your arm, but it's not the same as him holding her down and taking it. It's her choosing to give him what he wants to save herself from her information getting out. She could have simply said no and dealt with the consequences of him extorting her.Morally its rape. Legally its blackmail/extortion that led to a sexual encounter.
No matter how you feel about it, it's not rape because he didn't actually rape her. Now if he took her down to his dolphin rape cave and held her underwater until she passed out then did the deed...that's rape. Saying "I'll do this and this with your info if you dont have sex with me" is coercion, blackmail, extortion, etc... But he didn't physically force her against her will.
Stop making me defend what rape is, because it feels weird. Bottom line though, not rape in the eyes of the law.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Legally it's rape. You're making someone have sex with you against their will.--------------
Very interested in this shit after reading some critiques call it 'better than Daredevil'.
What was the blackmail?
What if she refused?
If we're talking real consequences, and not just embarrassment, then sure. That would be rape.
The same way someone denying an actress career advancement unless she puts out is rape.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He basically did the kind of stuff Harvey Weinstein and other potential sexual predators have been accused of. Sexually harassing women and using his position to threaten them into sleeping with him.
Totally rape, then.
One could argue "So just refuse, don't have sex. Your career gets destroyed, your reputation dragged through the mud, but you wouldn't be raped."
Which is a pretty stupid argument, honestly, but one someone might make.
Kripke talks about a scene that was cut....
http://www.darkhorizons.com/the-one-scene-amazon-cut-from-the-boys/
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He basically did the kind of stuff Harvey Weinstein and other potential sexual predators have been accused of. Sexually harassing women and using his position to threaten them into sleeping with him.
It was more than just harassment, Deep outright threatened to lie and claim that she attacked him (using her power burst as proof), which could mean legal to penal troubles for her; that's full blown coercion in order to get someone to f**k you, iirc, that tantamount to rape from a legal viewpoint.