ds sentry vs rune king thor

Started by Faceless8084 pages

When he stopped Exitar's decent? Does that really equate to being physically vastly superior to the 4th host?

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I'm still waiting for your answers about the two questions I already asked to you multiple times.

Do you concede ?

Does it matter, kid ? 👆

I barely skimmed them, honestly.

I'm only asking because you sound young, like you still need to prove you have a dick in every post or something. You can just chat with people sometimes you know lol.

I'm 22, so yeah, a kid I guess.

Originally posted by Faceless808
When he stopped Exitar's decent? Does that really equate to being physically vastly superior to the 4th host?

Yep.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I barely skimmed them, honestly.

I'm only asking because you sound young, like you still need to prove you have a dick in every post or something. You can just chat with people sometimes you know lol.

I'm 22, so yeah, a kid I guess.

I'm just posting the way that sounds the more fun to me.

Look at the other threads and all the fanboys rants I am facing all the time...

I'm merely mixing seriousness in the informations in my post with humor.

Here you go bud. Though I did think Dambo's post was pretty clear already. All that stuff with "winds, witches, and bottles" was clearly flowery language. I mean regular Thor can already remove souls. This version can probably do it in his sleep.

Nice 👆 Yeah I always attributed it to flowery language. Unless Thor literally pulled out a bottle and hid it somewhere...

Or Sentry was actually a mariner at some point...

http://i.imgur.com/2Z6xE5a.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Here you go bud. Though I did think Dambo's post was pretty clear already. All that stuff with "winds, witches, and bottles" was clearly flowery language. I mean regular Thor can already remove souls. This version can probably do it in his sleep.

Rofl.

Thor is describing the two spells that he is using AND we see the effect on panel, moreover the handbook didn't say that Thor was actually attacking Mangog's soul but killing him, which is probably considering that Mangog can't revert from being changed to wind by himself...

Originally posted by Damborgson
Nice 👆 Yeah I always attributed it to flowery language. Unless Thor literally pulled out a bottle and hid it somewhere...

Or Sentry was actually a mariner at some point...

http://i.imgur.com/2Z6xE5a.jpg

Irrelevant.

We see on panel Thor turning Mangog's head into wind.

Sentry takes it. Rune Thor is only Odin level, at best.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Nice 👆 Yeah I always attributed it to flowery language. Unless Thor literally pulled out a bottle and hid it somewhere...

Or Sentry was actually a mariner at some point...

http://i.imgur.com/2Z6xE5a.jpg

Pfft it's just double standards at this point. Logic doesn't apply if it goes against you.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Pfft it's just double standards at this point. Logic doesn't apply if it goes against you.

Which double standards ? He changed Mangog's upper body into wind on panel, only Mangog's tail remained...

Any news of real life John Con by the way ?

Lol you still don't understand.

YOU'RE the one whose stance leads to John Constantine being a real person.

You use writer interviews as and when it suits you. The problem is, there is a reason we don't use them.

IF we use them, then YOUR logic and arguments lead to...John being real. As I have writer interviews - multiple ones - all saying that he exists in real life. Which aren't contradicted by comics,all of which assert that John is real.

So...yeah, how IS John these days? 😂

As I said to Carver a few days ago, the inability for you to bend from your stance leads you to making ridiculous statements. In his case, it leads to Batman being an abstract.

In your case, it leads to you confessing that John Constantine is real, lol.

That just highlights the futility of anyone debating with you. Because whilst you sit back, smugly,with your feelings of superior logic and debating skills, it just shows everyone that you're arguing sheer stupidity.

Such as Batman being abstract level,and a fictional character being real.

Feel free to respond, maybe throw an insult or two,maybe even some pig Latin in there in an attempt to appear clever. You make the mistake, however, of thinking I am making this post to debate you, when I simply don't want to interact with you any longer.

the easiest thing in the world is to make claims that don't require actual proof then laugh at people and feel superior because they are too stupid to counter your non-existent argument. ultimately there is no counter to stupidity and completely faulty reasoning. except ignore. 👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol you still don't understand.

YOU'RE the one whose stance leads to John Constantine being a real person.

You use writer interviews as and when it suits you. The problem is, there is a reason we don't use them.

No.

You are the one that not understand that there is context behind everything and that, when a writer claims that his fictional character exist, it is obviously a joke.

You looks completely asinine at bringing that interview all the time, especially when its context has NO CORRELATION with what other writers do with their own creations.

That's just a 5 years old excuse to avoid accepting that a writer talking about his own work is always right even that punch through your fanboyish beliefs.

IF we use them, then YOUR logic and arguments lead to...John being real.

Don't tell me what my logic is when you cannot understand what's happening on panel and reject the writer's words when he is confirming that you are wrong.

As I have writer interviews - multiple ones - all saying that he exists in real life. Which aren't contradicted by comics,all of which assert that John is real.

*sigh*

I will not even lower myself to answer to that bullshit.

So...yeah, how IS John these days? 😂

Better than your arguments on a thread, actually. FAR BETTER.

As I said to Carver a few days ago, the inability for you to bend from your stance leads you to making ridiculous statements.

Overgeneralization with no arguments at hand. Try again.

In his case, it leads to Batman being an abstract.

If you say so...

That's YOUR "logic" after all.

In your case, it leads to you confessing that John Constantine is real, lol.

Or just mocking you for constantly relying on fallacious arguments to avoid a real debate. 😂

That just highlights the futility of anyone debating with you. Because whilst you sit back, smugly,with your feelings of superior logic and debating skills, it just shows everyone that you're arguing sheer stupidity.

Sure.

That's why the writers words back-up my statements when they invalid yours.

I can live with that. 👆

Such as Batman being abstract level,and a fictional character being real.

Both statements are yours, actually.

Thanks for not putting in my mouth something I've never said but.. Your standards at debating are well known, now.

Feel free to respond, maybe throw an insult or two,

Nooo.

I will not lower myself to that.

Exposing the bullshit of your debating is enough.

maybe even some pig Latin in there in an attempt to appear clever.

Currently, all your posts revolves at using personal attacks and out-of-context scans/interviews/whatever you can twist to fit your narrative.

I don't need to appear "clever". You are doing a great job at making every of your posts WORSE than the previous one.

That's a prowess in itself. 👆

You make the mistake, however, of thinking I am making this post to debate you, when I simply don't want to interact with you any longer.

I don't care what you want to do, or think, or whatever bullshit you post.

Your opinion is completely worthless and insignificant.

Have a good day.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Rofl.

Thor is describing the two spells that he is using AND we see the effect on panel, moreover the handbook didn't say that Thor was actually attacking Mangog's soul but killing him, which is probably considering that Mangog can't revert from being changed to wind by himself...

Irrelevant.

We see on panel Thor turning Mangog's head into wind.


Looks like he kills Mangog by literally pulling his spirit from his body.

Agree to disagree.

Is there any proof that DS Sentry has a soul? if so, why was it ever stated that Bob had the power of creating solidified concept beings? He was obviously in his pocket universe when the Void was being attacked by the Avengers. It was right there on panel. Bob was not physically present, and yet he is the Void, and Sentry.

Emma then went to save the day by speaking to Bob when he was in his pocket universe.

If that was the Void what is this thing in the next scan? Why do they look so different? It shows that the Void, and even the Sentry are concepts of Bob;s imagination. Uf they are concepts how do they have souls? A car is a concept, but it doesn't have a soul right?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/spiderman/images/a/a7/Norman_Osborn%27s_uses_the_Void_to_threaten_the_Dark_Illuminati.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121225115745
This is what he looks like presently

Erm,a car isn't a concept.

A concept is an abstract idea.

Talks about his soul right here.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Looks like he kills Mangog by literally pulling his spirit from his body.

Agree to disagree.

He changed his upper body into wind. Look at the scene again, if that was a simple soul manipulation what's the point in destroying Mangog's body ?
What's the point talking about a spell that turns his enemy into wind ?

Fine.

Originally posted by Stoic
Is there any proof that DS Sentry has a soul? if so, why was it ever stated that Bob had the power of creating solidified concept beings? He was obviously in his pocket universe when the Void was being attacked by the Avengers. It was right there on panel. Bob was not physically present, and yet he is the Void, and Sentry.

Emma then went to save the day by speaking to Bob when he was in his pocket universe.

If that was the Void what is this thing in the next scan? Why do they look so different? It shows that the Void, and even the Sentry are concepts of Bob;s imagination. Uf they are concepts how do they have souls? A car is a concept, but it doesn't have a soul right?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/spiderman/images/a/a7/Norman_Osborn%27s_uses_the_Void_to_threaten_the_Dark_Illuminati.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121225115745
This is what he looks like presently

Every characters have a soul.

Read the first mini-series again and you will see that Void is supposed to literally touch the souls of his enemies and feed on them IIRC (I'm not 100% accurate about it but the idea is there).

We see Sentry creating a Golden sphere with his essence inside it (a part of his golden "aura", his soul) that he gives to the Hulk to protect him against the Void.

It is also implied that, when Sentry touch the Hulk with a ray coming from his aura (which is extremely similar to the Void touching other characters with his tendrils), Sentry literally "clean" the soul of the Hulk, making him feel better, calmer.

It's normal because powers based on Molecule Manipulation/Reality Warping actually allows their wielders to directly manipulate the essence/life force/soul.
(Look at Owen Reece second fight against the Beyonder).

That's my 2 cents about it. Voilaaaaa.

Originally posted by Damborgson

Talks about his soul right here.

Correction. It says that it is the soul that drives him, or would it be more correct to say that it drives it?

The Void, and all versions of the Sentry are product of Bob's mind. Could it be that it is Bob's soul that drives them? Why couldn't it be? I mean if they are solidified projections of his mind?

You will always notice that when Bob was mentally unstable, the Sentry was weaker, but when Bob was feeling great the Sentry could ignore Terrax's attack as if he were being hit by the warm water of a shower. That's just one example. I'm pretty sure that One Angry Scot can produce massive amounts of proof on this.

Which brings us back to a soul that the Sentry may not actually have, and that he may be referring to Bob being the soul that drives him.

Where do you get he is vastly physically Superior to the 4th host? Because he, with the help of every hero on Earth stopped a dying exitars decent?