Freedon Nadd - Sith Lord or Dark Jedi?

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
The ones in Revan's empire were named Dark Jedi because they were allied to his empire but followed their own agendas. They weren't 100% loyal to the empire.

What Chee says directly contradicts your stance since, as per his standards, every user of the dark side is a Dark Jedi regardless of organization.

No, it is not. Dark Jedi refers to either fallen Jedi or darksiders that do not belong to any established Force order and are independent. Lee doesn't take into account the Sith Order when he made that statement. Because the Sith are already an established Force order.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That's just not true though. The Dark Jedi were fanatically loyal to Malak and operated fully under his orders. Malak ordered waves of them to throw themselves in front of Revan to slow his advance on the Star Forge and they all obliged. In the DS version, the best three of them directly competed to kill Revan first so they could be Malak's apprentice and thus second in command of the Empire.

What Chee says directly contradicts your stance since, as per his standards, every user of the dark side is a Dark Jedi regardless of organization.

One of those Dark Jedi also stated that he is gonna do to Malak the same thing Malak did to Revan in KotOR.
And since Malak said to three Dark Jedi that who is gonna eliminate Revan, shall be his apprentice. It won't surprise me that the other Dark Jedi would oblige Malak's command.

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Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
No, it is not. Dark Jedi refers to either fallen Jedi or darksiders that do not belong to any established Force order and are independent. Lee doesn't take into account the Sith Order when he made that statement. Because the Sith are already an established Force order.

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Your example with the Dark Jedi on KotOR further demonstrates the point. The Dark Jedi willing to overthrow Malak shows indoctrination into the Sith ideology and that they plan to be Dark Lord of the Sith (i.e. leader of the Sith Empire).

Dark Jedi can become Sith Lords if they want to? Kind of.

Also, IIRC, weren't those Dark Jedi you mentioned, actually, fallen Jedi? Vandar says something about that.

[No, it doesn't. Chee is explicitly taking the Sith Order into account when he states "any" dark-side Force-user with no mention that he is excluding the Sith from such.]

C'mon, bro. It is plainly obvious that Lee does not take in account the Sith because he starts with: Any dark side practitioner is a dark Jedi. Then he says they don't bring this up often to not confuse people.

Why? Because 'any'= 'anyone'-and it is a term used to denote 'generality'. Not only that, but 'any' is used to show or point out something or someone who is of no importance.

What Lee says is that any (insignificant)darksider can be called a Dark Jedi. Why? Well, because they do not belong to a Force order. They do not represent anything. They stand for themselves alone and are driven by smaller ambitions than a Sith Lord.

Why do you make threads when you just ignore the responses?

It's been established that he is retarded.

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Freedon Nadd - Sith Lord or Dark Jedi

KMC troll, perhaps?

Originally posted by SunRazer
Why do you make threads when you just ignore the responses?

Because they are wrong?

I've never seen a source to state that Palpatine was a dark Jedi or that Vitiate was a dark Jedi?

One more thing: When did Lee make that statement(year)? Did it have anything to do with TCW show?

If Nadd's referred to as a Sith anywhere, the limitations apply to him.

"The spirits of powerful Sith Lords such as Marka Ragnos, Freedon Nadd, and Karness Muur..."
―Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia

"This short lightsaber once belonged to the powerful Sith Lord Freedon Nadd."
―Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords

It's okay, though. He's killed more Jedi than Tulak Hord has with his lightsaber (or anyone had via lightsaber by KotOR II), and he's far more powerful than Sadow.

"A vile weapon that belonged to Freedon Nadd, this blaster has killed more Jedi than any lightsaber."
―Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords

"Freedon Nadd studied avidly under Naga Sadow. Eventually, the apprentice became far more powerful than the teacher..."
―The Official Star Wars Factfile 90

Kun > Nadd > Sadow / Hord / Ragnos (the lattermost by way of feats) imo

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Because they are wrong?

I've never seen a source to state that Palpatine was a dark Jedi or that Vitiate was a dark Jedi?

Pretty sure people were telling you in this thread that Palpatine was called a Dark Jedi before, lol.

As for Vitiate, because by that time, they realised how vague the term was and decided not to apply it?