hmm, i dunnno man. there was some intimation that odin would be able to beat him. maybe rage knows what i'm talking about. it was during the arc where odin's soul was in the bag....and ghost rider also beat maephsito not too long ago. that was zarathos iirc (some of those gr's were hard to keep track of...) i'd put uatu in odin's category personally--maybe even slightly above. not sure who takes this tbh. it's close though imo. very very close.
Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, i dunnno man. there was some intimation that odin would be able to beat him. maybe rage knows what i'm talking about. it was during the arc where odin's soul was in the bag....and ghost rider also beat maephsito not too long ago. that was zarathos iirc (some of those gr's were hard to keep track of...) i'd put uatu in odin's category personally--maybe even slightly above. not sure who takes this tbh. it's close though imo. very very close.
Remember that infamous scene where Mephisto catches Mjolnir, melts it to slag, then recreates it and throws it at Thor? People have stated that it was just an illusion but like I said before, he FOR SURE caught the hammer because it was in his hand the whole time he was talking to Thor. Even if you want to debate the slagging/recreating of the hammer, the fact that he caught it really isn't debatable. Zeus himself couldn't hold the hammer more than a split second and even this tiny feat shocked Thor. Mephisto had a whole conversation with Thor while he had Mjolnir in his grip. That's a monstrous feat IMHO.
Originally posted by zopzop
I agree. I'd put Uatu in Odin's category (more or less), I think Starlin did too. The thing is, various writers have repeatedly mentioned that Hell Lord's are near omnipotent in their realms.Remember that infamous scene where Mephisto catches Mjolnir, melts it to slag, then recreates it and throws it at Thor? People have stated that it was just an illusion but like I said before, he FOR SURE caught the hammer because it was in his hand the whole time he was talking to Thor. Even if you want to debate the slagging/recreating of the hammer, the fact that he caught it really isn't debatable. Zeus himself couldn't hold the hammer more than a split second and even this tiny feat shocked Thor. Mephisto had a whole conversation with Thor while he had Mjolnir in his grip. That's a monstrous feat IMHO.
Originally posted by Galan007
Didn't Galactus beat the 'omnipotent' Mephisto in his own realm rather decisively..?
Originally posted by darthgoober
And Odin's been stated as nigh omnipotent also. So yeah... 'bout the same level lol
For comparison's sake, here's classic Zeus vs Odin's enchantments :
Thor is amazed Zeus was even able to halt it for an 'instant'.
This is someone, who according to THor, Odin 'counts as his equal' :
Originally posted by zopzopThat's exactly my point. If Meph couldn't beat Galactus in his own realm, then we should probably stop acting like he's this omnipotent/unbeatable entity there. He's Galactus-level on a good day.
He 'beat' him by attempting to eat his realm. Prior to that, they were fighting on even terms.
And for what it's worth, Odin has also given Galactus a damn good fight. So if the consensus is that Uatu is Odin-level, then I'd say the chances of him beating Meph are 50/50, tbh. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
That's exactly my point. If Meph couldn't beat Galactus in his own realm, then we should probably stop acting like he's this omnipotent/unbeatable entity there. He's Galactus-level on a good day.And for what it's worth, Odin has also given Galactus a damn good fight. So if the consensus is that Uatu is Odin-level, then I'd say the chances of him beating Meph are 50/50, tbh. 👆
surfer has flat out overpowered mephisto too, but in the mephisto v the avengers series he was pretty uber. this is hard to say. uatu handled the rogue watcher aron by EXACTLY getting his hands dirty. that was a pretty awesome display of power from both watchers.
honestly i'm leaning towards a split here. that was also a hungry galactus that stalemated mephisto iirc....