Originally posted by IntrpdNope, it was just him tanking re-entry heats while falling into earth's atmosphere. Nowhere near star level heats.
he creates a barrier that withstands the heat comparable to the outer layers of a star iirc. forgot which book tho.
I'm guessing a massive gas explosion is hotter than re-entry.
Originally posted by ILS
Nope, it was just him tanking re-entry heats while falling into earth's atmosphere. Nowhere near star level heats.I'm guessing a massive gas explosion is hotter than re-entry.
Nah the passage says it's heats on the order of the outer layers of a star.
That's not exactly the best barrier feat though.
Arcann's barrier feat is also insane.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Given that Vader can do that I suppose this proves Vader > anyone in TOR not named Valkorion. 👆
The actual barrier isn't the point, I don't think. 'Thor does the same thing against the First Son essentially. AP's argument is that its Spirit Valk's power boost that enables the Outlander to create barriers powerful enough to withstand Arcann and Vaylin. Naturally Valkorion's full strength would be significantly greater than the Outlanders in this regard.
Originally posted by The EllimistHe needed to maintain the Force shield against the sort of heat he might find in the outer layers of a star.
Nah the passage says it's heats on the order of the outer layers of a star.That's not exactly the best barrier feat though.
Eh, I'm not clued up enough on physics to know how hot re-entry heats get, but I'm guessing it's not as hot as the outer layers of a star, hence the "might."
And again, he was only shielding himself from the heat, whereas Tenebrous was bottlenecking the whole explosion, so I'd say Tenebrous' is better. Granted Galen then went on to destroy half a frigate at the same time.
Az, I'm impressed with what you've acccomplished for Nome here. Innocuous details most of us would have (and did) overlook. For such a minor character, Tenebrous is obviously extremely powerful. I suppose between Banite scaling, his cosmically significant esoteric powers, and his standing relative to Plagueis, a credible argument can indeed be made that he's much more powerful than Failkorion.
Originally posted by ILS
He needed to maintain the Force shield against the sort of heat he might find in the outer layers of a star.Eh, I'm not clued up enough on physics to know how hot re-entry heats get, but I'm guessing it's not as hot as the outer layers of a star, hence the "might."
And again, he was only shielding himself from the heat, whereas Tenebrous was bottlenecking the whole explosion, so I'd say Tenebrous' is better. Granted Galen then went on to destroy half a frigate at the same time.
Originally posted by ILS
He needed to maintain the Force shield against the sort of heat he might find in the outer layers of a star.Eh, I'm not clued up enough on physics to know how hot re-entry heats get, but I'm guessing it's not as hot as the outer layers of a star, hence the "might."
And again, he was only shielding himself from the heat, whereas Tenebrous was bottlenecking the whole explosion, so I'd say Tenebrous' is better. Granted Galen then went on to destroy half a frigate at the same time.
tbh though it hurts Starkiller to say this, a lot of explosions would generate higher temperatures anyway.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Az, I'm impressed with what you've acccomplished for Nome here. Innocuous details most of us would have (and did) overlook. For such a minor character, Tenebrous is obviously extremely powerful. I suppose between Banite scaling, his cosmically significant esoteric powers, and his standing relative to Plagueis, a credible argument can indeed be made that he's much more powerful than Failkorion.
I am honored one as far above us mortals as yourself has descended down from Sheev's heaven to not only acknowledge, but to give praise to such a lowly cretin as I. I am forever your servant, Master, and will not rest until Failkorion lies in the dirt. Right now, it seems Tenebrous has surpassed him. The notion will be cemented in the coming weeks, I assure you.
Originally posted by IntrpdNot really. Galen putting a shield over himself so the explosion passes over him, versus Tenebrous holding back a cathedral-sized cavern's worth of explosive energy is a clear win for Tenebrous.
in any case, both are very impressive. arguing which one is better is probably borderline impossible
Originally posted by ILS
Not really. Galen putting a shield over himself so the explosion passes over him, versus Tenebrous holding back a cathedral-sized cavern's worth of explosive energy is a clear win for Tenebrous.
starkiller contained air hotter than ordinary flame (metal rungs had turned red from heat) that would have fried him if not for his barrier, then maintaining the shield against heat comparable to outer layers of a star and raindrops that hit with the force of thermal detonators while simultaneously holding the ship together and then practically disintegrating what remained of the frigate.
how is tenebrous' barrier superior lol.
Originally posted by ILS
Because I see little evidence outside of flowery descriptions that SK was dealing with anything hotter than atmospheric re-entry.His use of TK obviously makes the feat way more impressive I agree, but the use of Force Barrier itself was more impressive on Tenebrous' part.