Jiren vs Beerus

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Jiren vs Beerus

Who wins?

carver9 Senior Member

Jiren, every single time.

Damborgson King of the Damboys

As of right now...undecided. But I'm feeling Jiren.

cdtm Restricted

Beerus.

There's no proof someone on Goku's level can even challenge him. While Jiren is at least being pressed enough to worry.

cdtm Restricted

In fact, Beerus casually beat limit breaker Vegeta in the manga.

If he puts up any sort of fight at all against Jiren, this proves Beerus >.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by cdtm
In fact, Beerus casually beat limit breaker Vegeta in the manga.
That was pre-ToP Vegeta right after he(like Goku) 'mastered' SSB... But MSSB is a wholly different form/power than Vegeta's current ASSB. In fact, ASSB is AT LEAST 20x MSSB, given that Vegeta is currently no less than equal to MSSB Goku /w/ KKx20.

Anywho... As of right NOW, there is no concrete evidence that puts Jiren above Beerus, tbh. We *should* know for sure where Jiren stands relative to the Hakaishin once he and MUI Goku fight, however.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ The Immortal Emperor

MSSB doesn’t exist in the anime.

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I predict MSSJB will be the Super Kaioken and Limit Breaker Vegeta of the manga.

The point of the anime cheese is to get Goku and Vegeta on the same level. The manga merely skipped the build up and went right to equalizing them.

I don't expect there to be any more powerups until UI.

bbrem123 Senior Member

I completely agree. They might get stronger during the ToP but MSSJ definitely seems to be the equivalent of ASSJB and KKx20.

ares834 Senior Member

Jiren.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ The Immortal Emperor

Originally posted by cdtm
I predict MSSJB will be the Super Kaioken and Limit Breaker Vegeta of the manga.

The point of the anime cheese is to get Goku and Vegeta on the same level. The manga merely skipped the build up and went right to equalizing them.

I don't expect there to be any more powerups until UI.

Originally posted by bbrem123
I completely agree. They might get stronger during the ToP but MSSJ definitely seems to be the equivalent of ASSJB and KKx20.

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That said, we now have a chance to directly compare Beerus and Jiren in the manga by seeing how the latter handles MSSJB.

carver9 Senior Member

I thought Toppo already manhandled Mastered Blue?

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by carver9
I thought Toppo already manhandled Mastered Blue?
Goku was pretty much handling Toppo as Super Saiyan God so he didn't mandhandle Blue. Goku let his guard down thinking he could win easy and then was hit unexpectedly and kicked out of the ring.

Damborgson King of the Damboys

In the manga that kick knocked the SSJB out of Goku though, it was a hell of a shot.

bbrem123 Senior Member

It was in the family jewels lol.

Also Toppo said he doesnt think he could not have defeat Goku if he didn't counter that attack. Goku was just careless and let his guard down.

NewGuy01 perpetual

Goku also wasn't in top form; this was literally hours after he was wounded by a handgun.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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That said, we now have a chance to directly compare Beerus and Jiren in the manga by seeing how the latter handles MSSJB.

The forms are definitely NOT the same.

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Originally posted by carver9
Jiren, every single time.

How exactly does he beat Beerus who is the most powerful God of Destruction?

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Originally posted by Blindside12
How exactly does he beat Beerus who is the most powerful God of Destruction?

Don't take Crazy Carv seriously, almost every post from him is a troll.

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I suspect there's a reason they have deliberately avoided making any direct statements about how Jiren compares to Beerus specifically.