Palpatine Escaping Chaos As Spirit Debunked
Palpatine Escaping Chaos As Spirit Debunked
Re: Palpatine Escaping Chaos As Spirit Debunked
Originally posted by Freedon NaddRotJ wasn't the first time Palpatine had died, though.
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Originally posted by Freedon NaddThat is contradicted by the official DE Handbook, though:
The ghosts brought him back, mate. Can't argue with the source itself.
Palpatine resurrected himself after his death in RotJ, thanks solely to his mastery of dark side magics and the like -- not because of 'help' from ancient Sith spirits or w/e...
Originally posted by Freedon NaddDE #2:
And where it was said that Palpatine died many more times? It wouldn't make sense if he died pre-DE. Chee is right. He lied.
But yeah, I'm curious to see the quote from Chee that retcons Palpatine's above statement. I certainly didn't get the impression that Palpatine was originally intended to be lying in that scene, though -- he was telling Luke the true end result of tapping-into the dark side so deeply. It decays his body(that's *why* Palps kept a stockpile of clones on Byss, after all.) /shrug
What always stuck in the back of my mind about DE was just how old is Palpatine if he's been going from one cloned body to another? He said the process is painful so you know he did it at least one other time. Is that his second body in TPM?
None of the versions of Palpatine that you see in the films is a clone. The original Palpatine had a normal lifespan. He went through the clone transfer process between Eps VI and DE. (I concede that some "retconning" might need to be considered with the exact wording of the DE text.)
I was wrong that Chee said Sidious was lying (he suggests retcon), but point is Sidious is not a clone in ROTJ. 👆
Originally posted by DarthAnt66Cool, thanks... It is definitely a retcon, because Palpatine clearly wasn't intended to be lying in the original scene.
What always stuck in the back of my mind about DE was just how old is Palpatine if he's been going from one cloned body to another? He said the process is painful so you know he did it at least one other time. Is that his second body in TPM?None of the versions of Palpatine that you see in the films is a clone. The original Palpatine had a normal lifespan. He went through the clone transfer process between Eps VI and DE. (I concede that some "retconning" might need to be considered with the exact wording of the DE text.)
I was wrong that Chee said Sidious was lying (he suggests retcon), but point is Sidious is not a clone in ROTJ. 👆
The good thing is that it doesn't really change much here. Chee even admits in the very same post that Palpatine was able to resurrect thanks to his *own* mastery of the force/dark side... Not because he had 'help' from ancient Sith spirits. 👆
Originally posted by Zenwolf👆
The Complete Encyclopedia also states he returned through sheer will, so yeah that bit was retconned.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
The Complete Encyclopedia also states he returned through sheer will, so yeah that bit was retconned.
Naga Sadow's spirit also escaped Chaos, after his vessel(on Coruscant) was destroyed, and returned to Yavin 4.
As about the CE, would you take that part for granted when its authors don't know the detailed context of Dark Empire comic books?
Geez, I hate inconsistencies.
Originally posted by Galan007
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Wait a moment. That void isn't Chaos, that void is the cosmic space. This takes place after he solo's himself with his own Force storm aboard the Eclipse. This doesn't occur when he died shortly after the last movie of OT.
So, there is no retcon after all.