He outskilled T'challa after T'challa lost the heart shaped herb's powers, so he also may have had a physical edge... he certainly looked stronger.
Still though, T'challa doesn't (yet) have the physical or skill feats to match up to Cap, so it's a moot point. And Killmonger definitely didn't do anything to stack up against, say, Cap's elevator fight.
Originally posted by SmurphStill though, T'challa doesn't (yet) have the physical or skill feats to match up to Cap, so it's a moot point. And Killmonger definitely didn't do anything to stack up against, say, Cap's elevator fight.
Cap doesnt have the agility/acrobatic physicality BP does.
Nor does he have the durability.
And BP is plenty skilled.
BP wins regardless of Cap having his Shield or not.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, if your don't mind spoilers:Spoiler:
Yes, he takes the heart-shaped herb at a point in the film, gaining comparable stats to Black Panther/Super Soldiers.
yes im aware of that what i was asking is this him fighting with or without that in his system cuz obviously it makes a big difference
Well, round 1 should be a close match, but Steve just has too many H2H feats against not only people on his own level, but above (like Spidey, Ultron and IM) as well. Which is why I am backing him there. But yeah, the two of them should be close enough that giving Killmonger the suit tips it solidly in his favour.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Cap doesnt have the agility/acrobatic physicality BP does.
I was arguing this same point the other day with someone.
But then that he was all like "can you give me A physical feat Tchalla has done that Cap couldn't replicate?
The debate is still on going.
Got any way to prove that statement?
Originally posted by Juk3n
I was arguing this same point the other day with someone.But then that he was all like "can you give me A physical feat Tchalla has done that Cap couldn't replicate?
The debate is still on going.
Got any way to prove that statement?
Just showings. We never see much from Cap in that aspect.
His best acrobatic move I can think of was that twirl he did against Spider-Man.
He also struggles when surrounded by machine gun fire. He cant/doesnt Just leap and flip to avoid them, but instead needs to heavily rely on his Shield.
BP’s scene from the trailer flipping over cars is a good one (and he has way more of that in the film).
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Just showings. We never see much from Cap in that aspect.His best acrobatic move I can think of was that twirl he did against Spider-Man.
He also struggles when surrounded by machine gun fire. He cant/doesnt Just leap and flip to avoid them, but instead needs to heavily rely on his Shield.
BP’s scene from the trailer flipping over cars is a good one (and he has way more of that in the film).
They stole that from Snake-eyes
🙂 😈
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Just showings. We never see much from Cap in that aspect.His best acrobatic move I can think of was that twirl he did against Spider-Man.
He also struggles when surrounded by machine gun fire. He cant/doesnt Just leap and flip to avoid them, but instead needs to heavily rely on his Shield.
BP’s scene from the trailer flipping over cars is a good one (and he has way more of that in the film).
Then re-watch Cap taking down the quinjet in Winter Soldier. He shows off plenty acrobatics.
Not that it matters in a h2h fight anyways, Black Panther's acrobatics isn't going to give him an edge. Cap's style might seem less flashy, but it's been just as effective, if not more, in the movies.
Originally posted by Smurph
Then re-watch Cap taking down the quinjet in Winter Soldier. He shows off plenty acrobatics.Not that it matters in a h2h fight anyways, Black Panther's acrobatics isn't going to give him an edge. Cap's style might seem less flashy, but it's been just as effective, if not more, in the movies.
Not on the level of BP or Spider-Man.
It WILL make a difference in a fight. Look how Spidey played Winter Soldier and Falcon in ways Cap never could.
Plus theres BPs durability.
BP or Killmonger win with the suit. No question.