Originally posted by One Big Mob
I know you hate Silver Surfer but cut that out comparing him to Mags.
I don't hate surfer. It's perfect anolagy.
Plus Surfer just backhanded away a bunch of animal characters including Beta Ray Bill in SG. 😛
And failed to ko even SG and Drax with energy blasts.
Those were random characters simulations conjured by Loki. Unless you think Surfer can backhand Ego away who was also conjured.
Originally posted by abhilegendSurfer doesn't even interarct with Earth anymore. Mags gets his jollies from getting emotionally abused by Emma.
I don't hate surfer. It's perfect anolagy.And failed to ko even SG and Drax with energy blasts.
Those were random characters simulations conjured by Loki. Unless you think Surfer can backhand Ego away who was also conjured.
Surfer is the master of restraint. Nah, they were real. I think they were even 616 characters too considering the whole stupidity of that ****ing Horse always being off panel in every comic. Every now and then they dish out Surfer something. Magneto gets zip.
Does it make sense? That is the question.
Originally posted by abhilegendThe comic said it was the first appearance but he's been off panel in every other comic. Hoofy Hoof Horse or something.
I don't think there is an actual horse Thor.That's about as meaningful as Drax taking a point black blast from Surfer and getting up. It's not supposed to be taken seriously.
Like I said restraint. But just wanted to bring it up to show they haven't forgotten him as much as Mags. Nothing serious intended. Surfer does his best work in cameos of random comics. If only they could have a random ongoing where Surfer appears every 5 issues for a cameo.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
The comic said it was the first appearance but he's been off panel in every other comic. Hoofy Hoof Horse or something.Like I said restraint. But just wanted to bring it up to show they haven't forgotten him as much as Mags. Nothing serious intended. Surfer does his best work in cameos of random comics. If only they could have a random ongoing where Surfer appears every 5 issues for a cameo.
Originally posted by abhilegendYou're confusing the stories, that's not true. Fabian Cortez betrayed Magneto in X-Men #3 and they split. Fatal Attractions was after this.
Magneto was amped in Fatal Attractions by Fabian Cortez IIRC.
In X-Men #3 Magneto almost discorporated into the Electromagnetic field and died, if not for an Accolyte sacrificing himself.
That process made him come back stronger than ever:
"My near-discorporation within Earth's E.M field has left me more powerful than even I imagined"
"I am stronger than I have ever been - ever have imagined I would one day become"
Originally posted by abhilegend
He never received any power up when he was turned into an adult. It was opposite actually.
This is also not true...
It's explicitly state otherwise time and time again:
"Restored him to adulthood, even more powerful than before"
And again..
When his body was restored to youth, he regained all the power he had lost as time went on and more, specifically more powerful than he was for the entire Silver Age - you can even see them referencing all the way back to X-Men #4.
"MY POWER HAS MADE A QUANTUM LEAP NOT ONLY IN RAW STRENGTH BUT IN SENSITIVITY AS WELL."
..
I could post dozens of other examples, but I don't have the scans at hand, and I wouldn't want to waste time searching for them...I wasted 15 minutes trying to download/upload the ones above.
Drop this, abhi.
Originally posted by Philosophía
You're confusing the stories, that's not true. Fabian Cortez betrayed Magneto in X-Men #3 and they split. Fatal Attractions was after this.In X-Men #3 Magneto almost discorporated into the Electromagnetic field and died, if not for an Accolyte sacrificing himself.
That process made him come back stronger than ever:
"[b]My near-discorporation within Earth's E.M field has left me more powerful than even I imagined
""I am stronger than I have ever been - ever have imagined I would one day become"
This is also not true...
It's explicitly state otherwise time and time again:
"Restored him to adulthood, even more powerful than before"
And again..
When his body was restored to youth, he regained all the power he had lost as time went on and more, specifically more powerful than he was for the entire Silver Age - you can even see them referencing all the way back to X-Men #4.
"MY POWER HAS MADE A QUANTUM LEAP NOT ONLY IN RAW STRENGTH BUT IN SENSITIVITY AS WELL."
..
I could post dozens of other examples, but I don't have the scans at hand, and I wouldn't want to waste time searching for them...I wasted 15 minutes trying to download/upload the ones above.
Drop this, abhi. [/B]
Magneto murders Unworthy Thor.
Originally posted by Philosophía
You're confusing the stories, that's not true. Fabian Cortez betrayed Magneto in X-Men #3 and they split. Fatal Attractions was after this.In X-Men #3 Magneto almost discorporated into the Electromagnetic field and died, if not for an Accolyte sacrificing himself.
That process made him come back stronger than ever:
"[b]My near-discorporation within Earth's E.M field has left me more powerful than even I imagined
""I am stronger than I have ever been - ever have imagined I would one day become"
This is also not true...
It's explicitly state otherwise time and time again:
"Restored him to adulthood, even more powerful than before"
And again..
When his body was restored to youth, he regained all the power he had lost as time went on and more, specifically more powerful than he was for the entire Silver Age - you can even see them referencing all the way back to X-Men #4.
"MY POWER HAS MADE A QUANTUM LEAP NOT ONLY IN RAW STRENGTH BUT IN SENSITIVITY AS WELL."
..
I could post dozens of other examples, but I don't have the scans at hand, and I wouldn't want to waste time searching for them...I wasted 15 minutes trying to download/upload the ones above.
Drop this, abhi. [/B]
If Magneto was more powerful than ever, it wouldn't have been possible for Joseph to be more powerful than him. And in Magneto War, Magneto needed a machine to amplify his powers to manipulate EM spectrum of the world while he could do it by himself in Fatal Attractions.
The previous scans are retconned by X men 3 scans which states in clear terms that Magneto was channeling too much power and Moira modified his genetic structure so that he does not get mad again.
Originally posted by abhilegendThis is so deceiving, it leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
And in Magneto War, Magneto needed a machine to amplify his powers to manipulate EM spectrum of the world while he could do it by himself in Fatal Attractions.
Magneto used the machine to spread his essence over the entire world and become part of the Magnetosphere, to the point where he could feel individual walkie-talkies and blow-dryers:
His point was to literally control everything in order to hold the world hostage and give him Genosha.
In Fatal Attractions, he simply send an EMP pulse and then went on with his day:
To say the feats are equivalent is baffling, and then to use that as proof that he got an off-panel depowerment since Fatal Attractions is even moreso.
Jesus Christ abhi, what are you even doing here?
Originally posted by abhilegend
When Magneto fought Joseph in Magneto War, Joseph was more powerful than him because he lacked his inhibitions.If Magneto was more powerful than ever, it wouldn't have been possible for Joseph to be more powerful than him.
Out of all the people on the forum you, a Superman fan, should be the first to understand how a character holding back subconsciously, and another not, might make it seem like the other one is more powerful. How can you argue like this, and then go in a Supergirl vs Superman thread and say she only seemed more powerful because Superman has been used to holding back his whole life, while she wasn't?
Originally posted by abhilegendYou got this wrong.
The previous scans are retconned by X men 3 scans which states in clear terms that Magneto was channeling too much power and Moira modified his genetic structure so that he does not get mad again.
The first time Magneto used his powers, Moira's tampering disappeared:
"My process was a failure - effective only so long as the subject never used their mutant power"
I've already showed you many instances of Magneto being called more powerful - him directly remarking that he is more powerful, him specifically saying he can now do things that he could not to before and explicitly having calls back to the entirety of Silver Age by going back to X-Men #4, the recaps explicitly saying that he came back to adulthood more powerful and there's literally a dozen other instances of it being stated.
This is not debatable. I'm serious, and it only makes it look worse the further you advance due to the ridiculous preponderance of clear evidence to the contrary.
Stop with this stubbornness. You can attack Magneto in much easier ways than to obfuscate the truth.
