Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She went all out against that meteor.And yes, she seems pretty pissed against the BO. Nonetheless, you're the one who used averages, yes? Supes has way more showings than Thor. You need to average across his appearances.
One or two low showings for Thor has way more of an impact than with Superman with his 1001 showings.
If you go by averages.
I see you enjoy clinging to one showing.
Being pissed doesn't mean you're going all out. I can point out a lot of showings of Superman being pissed during combat and you all would deny it. Also, new Supes, NEW Supes, doesn't have far more showings. I am talking about the Superman after the merge. Hello!!!
Going by average of high showings via combat, Jane showings piss on his showings. Phil used a ft of him getting mutilated by a group of Heralds as a high showing. If it takes fts like that to prove that Superman is operating above Herald tier then Jane is the better.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And on a related point, Rage names all the weapons that Mangog will tank.Says who? They didn't even try them. Loki just says nothing will stop him.
And we know that's a lie. As Thor will stop him.
yeah i was thinking the same thing. just because loki, of all people, says it, doesn't come close to meaning all of the weapons would ACTUALLY fail. hard to believe that some of what they have wouldn't be enough to end him. i'd love to see a god blast and what effect it would have. i'd also LOVE to see unworthy thor and that axe go into warrior madness. see how tough mangog REALLY is....
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah i was thinking the same thing. just because loki, of all people, says it, doesn't come close to meaning all of the weapons would ACTUALLY fail. hard to believe that some of what they have wouldn't be enough to end him. i'd love to see a god blast and what effect it would have. i'd also LOVE to see unworthy thor and that axe go into warrior madness. see how tough mangog REALLY is....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And on a related point, Rage names all the weapons that Mangog will tank.Says who? They didn't even try them. Loki just says nothing will stop him.
And we know that's a lie. As Thor will stop him.
Ummm says Loki, and by extension the writer?
Jane might stop him in the end, but that doesn't make Loki's statement untrue...
I mean, I can understand some skepticism, but like, how can Aaron make it any clearer at this point that Mangog can't be stopped with just brute force? Have him systematically stomp every deity ever?
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah i was thinking the same thing. just because loki, of all people, says it, doesn't come close to meaning all of the weapons would ACTUALLY fail. hard to believe that some of what they have wouldn't be enough to end him. i'd love to see a god blast and what effect it would have. i'd also LOVE to see unworthy thor and that axe go into warrior madness. see how tough mangog REALLY is....
I don't see why Loki would be lying at that point. His goal is save his mother, Freya. She is the one who he REALLY cares about. At the moment, she's getting choked to death by Mangog like some hentai porn. If there was something that could stop him, why wouldn't he use it?
I thought he was a clear writing tool to address all the fan complaints of why Mangog is just storming through Asgardia without any of the big artifacts whipped out.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
im confused. so loki never was sorcerer supreme and never got a power upgrade?
I don't think Sorcerer Supreme gives you a power upgrade, not for someone like Loki in the classic sense, who is himself a master sorcerer with a great resource but there is SOME change. I think the title invokes the ability to access entities, artifacts, and other items that no one else can.
Even in this issue. He prefaces sending Freya away even from Mangog BECAUSE he's Sorcerer Supreme. Which implies it would be difficult, or not possible for someone who isn't the Sorcerer Supreme to do.
He was after all, stalemating supposedly the most powerful Doctor Strange ever.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ummm says Loki, and by extension the writer?Jane might stop him in the end, but that doesn't make Loki's statement untrue...
I mean, I can understand some skepticism, but like, how can Aaron make it any clearer at this point that Mangog can't be stopped with just brute force? Have him systematically stomp every deity ever?
I don't see why Loki would be lying at that point. His goal is save his mother, Freya. She is the one who he REALLY cares about. At the moment, she's getting choked to death by Mangog like some hentai porn. If there was something that could stop him, why wouldn't he use it?
I thought he was a clear writing tool to address all the fan complaints of why Mangog is just storming through Asgardia without any of the big artifacts whipped out.
meh, feels like a plot device to me. could be factually true i suppose. regardless, we'll never know.
Originally posted by leonidas
meh, feels like a plot device to me. could be factually true i suppose. regardless, we'll never know.
The plot device is Jane. She's doing what a Thor does, being the greatest God who ever lived. I just wish Thor and Odin were dead in some glorious battle so they didn't have to be dragged through the mud to justify her existence.
People are getting their panties in a tizzy over Jane, forgetting that the entire point of her journey is a mortal living up to the example that Thor set out. The best feat in all of Thor's history was still written by Jason Aaron:
Trillions of gods, across all of time, any God that had ever been born, lived, or died was saved by Thor doing the impossible. And this story specifically took into account the existence of Elder/Old Gods. Retarded bro.
Thor with two Mjolnir's is confirmed Living Tribunal level. 😂
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The plot device is Jane. She's doing what a Thor does, being the greatest God who ever lived. I just wish Thor and Odin were dead in some glorious battle so they didn't have to be dragged through the mud to justify her existence.People are getting their panties in a tizzy over Jane, forgetting that the entire point of her journey is a mortal living up to the example that Thor set out. The best feat in all of Thor's history was still written by Jason Aaron:
Trillions of gods, across all of time, any God that had ever been born, lived, or died was saved by Thor doing the impossible.
Superman would've INCINERATED Gorr!!
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He beat the Destroyer and no weapon on Asgard can stop him, which on last count included the Twilight Sword, Odin sword, Casket of Ancient Winters, Norn Stones and at least one more reality warping weapon. Loki as Sorcerer Supreme wouldn't f*ck with him. Asgard is also home to the World Tree, which is more potent magic than you'd find almost anywhere else in Marvel (Axis of the Multiverse etc.) He stomped Cul. The Phoenix would probably run from him. He crushed Ultimate Mjolnir. He's beating the shit out of Odin and Thor, even though they are not what they once were, if Galactus or a Celestial invaded Asgard today, I'd bet on that duo kicking ass.The girls of Thunder and King Thor did way better against Galactus. A small portion of Asgard's army and the Destroyer raped the Sh'iar and the Imperials Guard. Remender and Aaron came up with a spell in Asgard's vault that could rape Celestials (The original bane of the Old Gods). He also had Odin blast a Celestial down from the First Host and kill it with the Phoenix etc. a million years ago.
Usually when someone is raping an enemy's fortress, they kind of ignore all the high end shit. Aaron is aware of it, and blatantly states that it doesn't matter. I don't know how Jane is going to pull this off, but it better be more then heart force. Aaron knows exactly how powerful Asgard can be. It makes Mangog that much scarier.
Anyways, Superman might chip a tooth before getting ripped in half I guess.
Gladiator choked Jane out, she struggled with grey she hulk just a few issues ago and was stalemating Hercules in arm wrestling. All under Aaron.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Shall I start with Superman feats now? I guess power scaling only works when it's Thor?Gladiator choked Jane out, she struggled with grey she hulk just a few issues ago and was stalemating Hercules in arm wrestling. All under Aaron.
And proceeds to immediately attempt to lowball Jane. It's like a mental disease.
Also, Jane Thor and Hercules stalemting in an arm wrestling isn't a low showing WTF. Nor is stalemating a Hulked out She-Hulk that was literally a stand in for the Hulk.....
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Did you ever catch Thor moving through time dilation there? 😛
😂
Nice! An even better speed feat than Jane's brain surgery under Aaron.
Anyone ever browse through the first page of the vs. Forums? Abhil is like a gay candy man. Say Superman 3 times in the mirror and he'll appear behind you in Superman undies jerking off into JLA/Avengers.
We need to create a separate forum for Superman related threads. It's sad.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And proceeds to immediately attempt to lowball Jane. It's like a mental disease.
Who said it's a low showing?
Also, Jane Thor and Hercules stalemting in an arm wrestling isn't a low showing WTF. Nor is stalemating a Hulked out She-Hulk that was literally a stand in for the Hulk.....
Are you that retarded? Who said it's a low showing?
Jane isn't some skyfather under Aaron. If she beats Mangog, it will only reflect poorly on Odin.
