Current Mangog vs Current Superman

Started by abhilegend8 pages

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Did you ever catch Thor moving through time dilation there? 😛

"Time became tar."

Does it specifically says Thor overcame the "tar" to say he overcame the time delation?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂

Nice! An even better speed feat than Jane's brain surgery under Aaron.

Anyone ever browse through the first page of the vs. Forums? Abhil is like a gay candy man. Say Superman 3 times in the mirror and he'll appear behind you in Superman undies jerking off into JLA/Avengers.

We need to create a separate forum for Superman related threads. It's sad.


You two finished jerking off each other?

Funny how that fits your profile to a T. Say anything about Thor related and you come with a toy mjolnir sticking in your ass and swallowing another toy mjolnir.

It's sad how much this affects you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
"Time became tar."

Does it specifically says Thor overcame the "tar" to say he overcame the time delation?


"Time became tar."

hmm... Wut do you think that meant?

It means it looks like it had stopped, but was actually moving. Moving so slow that things seemed frozen.

There was a pause. Then you see him moving through it. Simple really.

I DESTROYED THE THOR CORPS!!!!

NOW THIS DAMN RAGNAROK MOVIE HAS GIVEN THEM NEW LIFE!!!

Originally posted by abhilegend
"Time became tar."

Does it specifically says Thor overcame the "tar" to say he overcame the time delation?

Huh?

If time became tar, and a single moment stretched into Infinity, but Thor was able to move, obviously he's overcoming the time dilation....

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who said it's a low showing?

Are you that retarded? Who said it's a low showing?

Jane isn't some skyfather under Aaron. If she beats Mangog, it will only reflect poorly on Odin.

So what was the point of mentioning it? To prove that Jane isn't consistently walking around at Skyfather levels? I don't think anyone ever argued that.

I however did make a point to note that Jane overcoming all logical limitations is not a stretch because she has the power of Thor. Thor is the greatest God in all of creation, including Odin, that's the running theme of this series.

Jane beating Mangog in a fist fight wouldn't even be the craziest feat in the series so far. The original Thor didn't just overcome Odin, he saved every single God in the MU. So your attempt to lowball Odin is worthless.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
"Time became tar."

hmm... Wut do you think that meant?

It means it looks like it had stopped, but was actually moving. Moving so slow that things seemed frozen.

There was a pause. Then you see him moving through it. Simple really.

Yes, but at what speed? Did it specify that Thor was moving at normal speed?

Otherwise it's not overcoming time dilation.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Huh?

If time became tar, and a single moment stretched into Infinity, but Thor was able to move, obviously he's overcoming the time dilation....

This is retarded. Single moment didn't stretch into infinity.

"Eternity echoed with wailing and gnashing of teeth. With the dying of Gods".

It's typical flowery language from Aaron showing Gods were dying.

And this is typical for Aaron.

Doesn't mean Loki overcame time delation or whatever.

1) How is that typical for Aaron? Show me one instance where time being meddled with was mentioned and overcome means that wasn't raw power?

2) How does a realm where time is sick/diseased/broken/does not pass equivalent to Thor overcoming time being tar? Do you just throw shit at the wall until it sticks?

3) Also, was that really Aaron? Double check the writer. I don't have my comic drive on this laptop. Odin is almost too poised and respected to be Aaron.

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Mangog was viewed as an unstoppable force of Judgement by the Phoenix:

Mjolnir was also able to hurt the Phoenix, again and it actually feared the hammer. I don't know what else Aaron has to do to make it clear Mangog is unstoppable and a Thor with Mjolnir is the only force in the Universe that can overcome it (With Odin not being what he once was). Again, just like Gorr.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How does a realm where no time passes equivalent to Thor overcoming time being tar?

Time passed there but also lay stagnant.

And where did Thor overcome time being tar? He moved at an unknown pace and tar can be navigated with sufficient force.

Do you just throw shit at the wall until it sticks? Also, was that really Aaron? Double check the writer. I don't have my comic drive on this laptop. Odin is almost too poised and respected to be Aaron.

Aaron had a second writer to balance him but yes, he was the writer.

Also, Mangog was viewed as an unstoppable force of Judgement by the Phoenix:


And? Phoenix doesn't has a very good record herself under Aaron.

Mjolnir was also able to hurt the Phoenix, again and it actually feared the hammer. I don't know what else Aaron has to do to make it clear Mangog is unstoppable and a Thor with Mjolnir is the only force in the Universe that can overcome it. Again, just like Gorr.

Yeah, it's standard Doomsday scenario. Where only Superman can stop Doomsday.

Only Mangog is weaker, less tough version of Doomsday.

Abhilegend, how long do you THINK it took for Thor to move, considering that the bomb was killing more and more gods as they spoke?

And that between the scenes where Gorr was talking to King Thor and Gorr swung himself around to see what was going on, they were still in the same position. It was moments, and whatever was going on at the epicenter of that bomb, Thor was forced to overcome.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Abhilegend, how long do you THINK it took for Thor to move, considering that the bomb was killing more and more gods as they spoke?

And that between the scenes where Gorr was talking to King Thor and Gorr swung himself around to see what was going on, they were still in the same position. It was moments, and whatever was going on at the epicenter of that bomb, Thor was forced to overcome.


I'm not sure what you are trying to say. If it was only moments for everyone, the time dilation wasn't much. If say it was days for everyone and moments for Thor, then we can say Thor overcome time dilation

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, but at what speed? Did it specify that Thor was moving at normal speed?

Otherwise it's not overcoming time dilation.

At the time of the explosion, we see Thor suspended in mid air right in the center(heart) of the godbomb. However he powers through it and actually moves through the time dilation. He moved fast enough to absorb the entirety of the black stuff and save the other gods were literally falling and dying at that very same moment. Keep in mind time had basically come to a standstill in the center.

And just for reference, tar moves so slow that it looks solid to the naked eye. Can take years just for a tar pitch to drop.
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2013/07/19/Pitch-is-a-liquid-finally-drips-after-69-years/3791374265046/

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2013/07/19/drip-from-tar-pitch-experiment-seen-for-the-first-time-ever/#.Wo-DgkxFw2w

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
At the time of the explosion, we see Thor suspended in mid air right in the center(heart) of the godbomb. However he powers through it and actually moves through the time dilation. He moved fast enough to absorb the entirety of the black stuff and save the other gods were literally falling and dying at that very same moment. Keep in mind time has basically come to a standstill inside.

Time dilation wasn't much as outside the godbomb only a few moments passed for Gorr and King Thor.

It's the degree of time dilation that matters. Even Spider-Man has overcame slight time dilation.

More specifically, there is no mention of Thor using any kind of speed to overcome any time dilation.

And just for reference, tar moves so slow that it looks solid to the naked eye. Can take years just for a tar pitch to drop.
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2013/07/19/Pitch-is-a-liquid-finally-drips-after-69-years/3791374265046/

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2013/07/19/drip-from-tar-pitch-experiment-seen-for-the-first-time-ever/#.Wo-DgkxFw2w

I somehow doubt King Thor and Gorr were fighting for years outside godbomb.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. If it was only moments for everyone, the time dilation wasn't much. If say it was days for everyone and moments for Thor, then we can say Thor overcome time dilation

That dilation didn't spread outside of the god bomb itself, Thor was slowed and he moved within it at speeds he shouldn't have. Where is the lack of understanding?

It said "inside the heart of the god bomb", and seeing as how time was flowing regularly outside, it didn't take long for Thor to overcome it, but he did nevertheless.

I don't want to see you bitching when some troll lowballs a Superman feat.

But yeah, Thor may be close to Superboy in speed and strength.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superboy smash time freeze.

Dat kryptoninan strength doe...

Maybe.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That dilation didn't spread outside of the god bomb itself, Thor was slowed and he moved within it at speeds he shouldn't have. Where is the lack of understanding?

Because you can only measure how much dilation is going on by comparing normal flow of time and what Thor went through.

And there is no mention of Thor needing speed to do it.

It said "inside the heart of the god bomb", and seeing as how time was flowing regularly outside, it didn't take long for Thor to overcome it, but he did nevertheless.

Eh? Even when Thor was "suspended", it didn't flow like days for King Thor and Gorr.

I know it's only one kind of feat for Thor but don't get too excited.

I don't want to see you bitching when some troll lowballs a Superman feat.

😂

Like Rage/Celey leave any chance for that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because you can only measure how much dilation is going on by comparing normal flow of time and what Thor went through.

And there is no mention of Thor needing speed to do it.

Eh? Even when Thor was "suspended", it didn't flow like days for King Thor and Gorr.

I know it's only one kind of feat for Thor but don't get too excited.

😂

Like Rage/Celey leave any chance for that.

😂 Only you can look at a feat, and say it's not a feat, because it doesn't specify it. Despite looking right at it.
I guess Superman didn't no sell a planet exploding, because no text confirmed it? I know I can see it but...I really need that text.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Time dilation wasn't much as outside the godbomb only a few moments passed for Gorr and King Thor.

It's the degree of time dilation that matters. Even Spider-Man has overcame slight time dilation.

More specifically, there is no mention of Thor using any kind of speed to overcome any time dilation.

I somehow doubt King Thor and Gorr were fighting for years outside godbomb.


Uggh....

Time moving like tar is pretty much a metaphor for time moving so slow that it's in a virtual standstill.
He moved through a virtual standstill. Not really difficult to follow.

Outside of the time dilation, gods were choking on black death while time was moving normally. However in that virtual standstill, he moved fast enough to save all the dying gods.

And just caught this.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And where did Thor overcome time being tar? He moved at an unknown pace and tar can be navigated with sufficient force.


Wtf? The metaphor is going right over your head. "Tar can be navigagted with sufficient force"? Lol.. wtf.

Originally posted by Damborgson
😂 Only you can look at a feat, and say it's not a feat, because it doesn't specify it. Despite looking right at it.
I guess Superman didn't no sell a planet exploding, because no text confirmed it? I know I can see it but...I really need that text.

I didn't say it's not a feat. Just that the degree of time delation was never showed to be higher than say a few moments slower.

Now you are just talking like Celey.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Uggh....

Time moving like tar is pretty much a metaphor for time moving so slow that it's in a virtual standstill.
He moved through a virtual standstill. Not really difficult to follow.

Is it now? How come King Thor and Gorr never mentioned it like he was standing still in time.

And its not metaphor for time to stand still.

Outside of the time dilation, gods were choking on black death while time was moving normally. However in that virtual standstill, he moved fast enough to save all the dying gods.

That's just laughable. Time wasn't standing still all of a sudden. When it does, it's stated by characters outside the time warp.

No such statements were made.

And just caught this.

Wtf? The metaphor is going right over your head. "Tar can be navigagted with sufficient force"? Lol.. wtf.

😂

Never moved anything in a tarpit, have you?