Morlun vs Gorgon

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Du beschuldigst mich, hier zu trollen, ist urkomisch, denn wenn du dir diesen Thread anschaust, bin ich bei weitem derjenige, der hier am meisten beigetragen hat. Während du sagst Scheiße wie "alt Charaktere zählen nicht", weil es nicht hilft, Ihre Pov, während einfach ignorieren alle Scans, die ich gepostet habe. Wenn jemandes Verhalten als Trolling angesehen werden kann, gehört es Ihnen.

Morlun ist eine ganz andere Stufe als Gorgon.

FFS Morlun wurde nie ohne ein Plot-Gerät im Kampf besiegt.

1. Spider-Man benutzte sein bestrahltes Blut, um ihn zu vergiften, sodass sie zu Staub wurde.

2. Spider-Man wird "The Other", was im Grunde Inheritor Kryptonite ist und Morlun erstochen hat (genauso wie Kaine Solus töten konnte)

3. Er wurde in Wakandas Todesreich gebracht, wo er gegen die endlosen Horden des Todes kämpfte.

4. Und in Spiderverse Spider-Man mit einer Gruppe anderer Spinnen und einem Inheritor, der die Seiten wechselte, wurde er (Morlun) zusammen mit dem Rest der Erben wieder an einen Ort gebracht, wo sie kaum überleben konnten.

Nice to know you still have your saltiness Parmesanmaniac. Good post 👆

Originally posted by Parmaniac
You accusing me of trolling here is hilarious, because if you actually take a look at this thread I'm by far the one who contributed the most here. While you keep saying shit like "alt characters don't count" because it doesn't help your pov, while simply ignoring all of the scans I've posted. If anyone's behaviour can be considered trolling here it's yours.

Morlun is an entirely different tier than Gorgon.

FFS Morlun was never actually bested in battle without a plot device.

1. Spider-Man used his irradiated blood to poison him so her turned to dust.
2. Spider-Man become "The Other" which is basically Inheritor kryptonite and stabbed Morlun (same way Kaine was able to kill Solus)
3. He was BFRed into Wakanda's Death Realm where he fought the endless hordes of death.
4. And in Spiderverse Spider-Man with a group of other Spiders and an Inheritor that switched sides he (Morlun), along with the rest of the inheritors were BFRed again into a place where they could barely survive.

Actually, you'll find it is I who contributed the most.

Parm, who did the most work in this thread, convinced me that Morlun stomps the wolvie villain to paste.

Both characters have few appearances, old KMCers like us should know them by heart.

Morlun is a powerhouse, but he's not tailor-made for guys like Gorgon.

Immune to piercing attacks? Nope.

Hyper speed? Yes, but to much less degree than that of Gorgon's.

Resisting matter manipulation? Again, nope.

Gorgon could also distract him with a minor telepathic assault, like he did to Logan in the end of AoS... since Morlun has no TP "armor" feats and could be read like an open book.

There is no such thing as 'piercing attacks'.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
There is no such thing as 'piercing attacks'.

Read some comics, bro.

But fine, let's play your highly trollish game. Even Ezekiel was able to bloody Morlun's nose...

Oh. Oh we don't want to play that game.

Morlun has long hair, just like Mariko....

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I was about to post this after I looked for the Captain Universe vs. Solus scan, that is actually so OP that it's absurd. How can someone be faster than an alarm system that can send alarms before the initial action even started?

I know WTF! Stuff like that can make you hate a character like Morlun.

Then again, if Deathstroke did it, I wouldn't be complaining. 😎

Morlun's speed beyond linear time confirmed.

Originally posted by leonidas
morlun is definitely far more powerful than gorgon. he should certainly be fast enough to catch him. it would only take a couple solid shots to end it. not sure how the stare would work on him though so that's always a question... i wonder how morlun would do getting sliced up by the sword a few times too? i'd think he'd weather it pretty easily, but it would be interesting. stare aside, this does seem like morlun should stomp him pretty easily.

Only a couple shots?

In EOTS he was tanking claw piercings by Logan on a Jetpack while S.H.I.E.L.D. was firing on him. He bounced back from getting kicked through a cave by some Atlus like character, "disarmed" speedster YoYo, tanked enhanced Shangs best shots...

Morlun did about the same things on a far greater scale. Gorgon could probably walk through Wakanda weaponary and beat around a team of Spidey's too.

huh? gorgon can take wakanda? 😑 i don't think gorgon could beat panther...

spidey had likened morlun to getting hit by thor. 😐 i think you have a bit of an overdeveloped sense of just what gorgon is.... this happens to him:

https://plus.google.com/photos/116277202286120869572/album/6437009144759563505/6437009146428848738?authkey=CMb-gqnhqMSW3AE&sqid=115790306775503909282&ssid=9186fb45-5862-4cee-b60e-ff0ea246de7c

https://plus.google.com/photos/116277202286120869572/album/6437009144759563505/6437009145772953810?authkey=CMb-gqnhqMSW3AE&sqid=115790306775503909282&ssid=9186fb45-5862-4cee-b60e-ff0ea246de7c

given his nature. it is entirely possible that like herc, who one-shotted him, that morlun could also simply resist the stare, but that is really impossible to say. imo he is certainly powerful enough though.

Is that mortal Herc? And where is it from?

If it's depowered Hercules, that's a pretty serious lowball, when measured against Enemy of the State and Secret Defenders (Just like Bendis having Matt flying kick KO him is.)

I'd like to see Gorgon's best feats.

I'll do it, but I'd like to know the context of that scan first, please.

Couldn't be mortal level Hercules... He has his powers, right?

that was from secret empire and that was full power herc. which is relevant because as i said, morlun has been compared by spidey to guys in thor's class of power. the multiversal nature of his family would actually seem to back that statement up.

Didn't Morlun not only tank vibranium tipped missiles, but tore a vibranium mesh too?

These guys are on two completely different threat levels.

Morlun is a much larger threat, and Spidey should be getting mad kudos for surviving any encounter that he has had with him. Gorgon is just more slippery and has more immediate resources to draw from. In the end it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Morlun were able to resist and eventually build up an immunity to the stare, but that's extremely speculative.

I wouldn't place the Gorgon stare on the level of Wonder Woman's lasso in terms it working as successfully, but it's up there in the haxx dept.

Toe to toe? Morlun could probably rip his spine out, and I actually don't like Herc's odds if he were put up against this guy TBH.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Didn't Morlun not only tank vibranium tipped missiles, but tore a vibranium mesh too?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
You accusing me of trolling here is hilarious, because if you actually take a look at this thread I'm by far the one who contributed the most here. While you keep saying shit like "alt characters don't count" because it doesn't help your pov, while simply ignoring all of the scans I've posted. If anyone's behaviour can be considered trolling here it's yours.

Morlun is an entirely different tier than Gorgon.

FFS Morlun was never actually bested in battle without a plot device.

1. Spider-Man used his irradiated blood to poison him so her turned to dust.
2. Spider-Man become "The Other" which is basically Inheritor kryptonite and stabbed Morlun (same way Kaine was able to kill Solus)
3. He was BFRed into Wakanda's Death Realm where he fought the endless hordes of death.
4. And in Spiderverse Spider-Man with a group of other Spiders and an Inheritor that switched sides he (Morlun), along with the rest of the inheritors were BFRed again into a place where they could barely survive.

because alt characters don't count. everyone (except 616 characters) was fodder. we don't know how powerful captain universe sm was, we dont just assume it's equal to 616 since we have multiple examples of alt charatcers paling in comparison to their counterparts.

1. i read the story
2. i read the story
3. i read the story
4. i read the story

morlun and crew have the advantage over totems, gargan is not a totem...nor is he a fodder alt universe character with zero feats. gorgon is arguably as fast, better skilled, weaker strength wise, durability wash, has a hf and a one shot weapon