Wonder Woman vs. Human Torch

Started by h1a85 pages

Missle was super slow

Originally posted by h1a8
I never seen him move at super sonic speed. 100mph tops.

I stopped reading right there, because that is some of the most ridiculous lowballing I have seen you pull on this board, and that is saying something.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I stopped reading right there, because that is some of the most ridiculous lowballing I have seen you pull on this board, and that is saying something.
I recently watched the entire flight scenes before posting. He did not even fly above 100mph. Several obstacles took several seconds to reach. I could post clips of a nearby obstacle and several seconds pass before Johnny maneuvers around it. I also timed his distance of flight in relation to buildings and other things. Ok <200 mph

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I stopped reading right there, because that is some of the most ridiculous lowballing I have seen you pull on this board, and that is saying something.

Well he did say because Pai Mei looks cool and has some feats against nobody, and plucked Elle's eye out, he could take out Sunny in 30 seconds or less.

He's an idiotic troll.

Then your retarded, try looking at what city they started in and where they ended up

Originally posted by Silent Master
Then your retarded, try looking at what city they started in and where they ended up
That doesn’t overrule the fact that it took several seconds for Johnny to react to obstacles in his way. Look at each thing he dodges or maneuvered around. You see him approaching said obstacle and seconds later avoid it.

In other words, reactions are based off time and not speed of travel alone. It’s a faulty argument to argue travel speed as reaction speed anyway.

You said that you watched the entire flight scene and never saw him fly over 100mph, are you willing to admit that you were wrong?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You said that you watched the entire flight scene and never saw him fly over 100mph, are you willing to admit that you were wrong?

Yes I’m wrong about the 100mph. He seemed to exceed that at times. But definitely less than the speed of a bullet and less than 100mph most of the time. Surfer (who is faster than light) carried him to another part of the world.

By around how much did he exceed 100mph?

Originally posted by Silent Master
By around how much did he exceed 100mph?
I can only give a close least upper bound. Less than or equal to 200mph (293ft/s) at his fastest.
But most showings are slower than 100 mph.

Originally posted by steverules_2
HT melts her clothes off, we all win

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Originally posted by h1a8
I can only give a close least upper bound. Less than or equal to 200mph (293ft/s) at his fastest.
But most showings are slower than 100 mph.

IOW, you think that you can get from Manhattan to Washington DC within a few seconds without going above 200mph.

Ladies and gentlemen, the above is from someone(h1) that claims to be intelligent.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you think that you can get from Manhattan to Washington DC within a few seconds without going above 200mph.

Ladies and gentlemen, the above is from someone(h1) that claims to be intelligent.

Prove that he went from Manhattan to Washington in a few seconds. Post the clip.

The Baxter building is in Manhattan and the Washington Monument is in DC.

YouTube video

Human Torch starts flying at around the 27 second mark and passes the monument at around the 1:53 mark. the distance from Manhattan to the Washington monument is around 230 miles.

Now explain to me how you came to the 200mph number.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The Baxter building is in Manhattan and the Washington Monument is in DC.

YouTube video

Human Torch starts flying at around the 27 second mark and passes the monument at around the 1:53 mark. the distance from Manhattan to the Washington monument is around 230 miles.

Now explain to me how you came to the 200mph number.

The driving distance is 230miles.the straight line distance is about 205miles. But that is irrelevant.

You can't use real time (our time) here. All of the scenes are not necessarily connected (without gaps) in time. Meaning, time has elapsed between some adjacent scenes. This is proven by ALL of the shown onscreen speed being far less than the speed of sound. Thus they had to travel some distance offscreen. In other words, Each scene shown, they were under the speed of sound. You even see them take seconds to reach and past things that weren't very far from them (where I get the less than 200mph).

Even so, the time it took in each scene to travel to various distances (producing a certain speed) would simply contradict the average speed of the entire trip.

Prove that it took longer than the movie showed.

They exited the Holland tunnel at around the 1:41 mark and passed the monument at 1:53. that is 12 seconds.

Well, the best indicator of speed would be the uncut, unsped portion of the chase at 1:44-1:47.

Which starts somewhere over Floyd Bennet Field in Brooklyn @ 1:44.

And cuts out at near Monsignor Rd in Staten Island. @ 1:47

According to the map I am viewing, this is around 12-15 miles in a straight line.

That’s over (on the very lowballed end) 3 miles per second. Or around 11k+ mph (Mach 14).

Someone check my math and map reading skills pls.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove that it took longer than the movie showed.

They exited the Holland tunnel at around the 1:41 mark and passed the monument at 1:53. that is 12 seconds.

So you agree that they had to travel offscreen too? Otherwise we get a contradiction in average speed shown.

Originally posted by h1a8
So you agree that they had to travel offscreen too? Otherwise we get a contradiction in average speed shown.

Look up, Nib easily calculated a top speed of 11,000mph using what we see onscreen.

How is it a math teacher couldn't figure that out?

Originally posted by h1a8
Well, the best indicator of speed would be the uncut, unsped portion of the chase at 1:44-1:47.

Which starts somewhere over Floyd Bennet Field in Brooklyn @ 1:44.

And cuts out at near Monsignor Rd in Staten Island. @ 1:47

According to the map I am viewing, this is around 12-15 miles in a straight line.

That’s over (on the very lowballed end) 3 miles per second. Or around 11k+ mph (Mach 14).

Someone check my math and map reading skills pls.

Your 11,000mph is on the low end. I kept getting around 15 miles when marking the map and so came up with about 15,500mph