Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Not really, my comment referred to your average footsoldier, not your elite bodyguards that need to protect you and your comparisons don't really make sense. The reason why - to follow your line of thinking - a Star Destroyer doesn't just bombard every planet and such is that it isn't always necessary to do so and the extra damage done to the planet compared to an invasion could cost the Empire resources.Again, your comparison is completely off-topic. The fact that your footsoldier or even PT guard didn't use an actual lightsaber can have many explanantions, we know for example that they are incredibly hard to handle for non-Force sensitives and they're not necessarely the better weapon compared to let's say a staff (or any of the weapons the PT guards used).
Droidekas naturally have their downsides obviously, they might outperform the First Order soldiers in a pure shootout but they lack the intelligence of an organic being so they'll perform inferior in a large number of situations that require fast thinking, improvisation and flexibility.
Your entire argument consists of making comparisons that have nothing to do with this argument, there are a large number of reasons the Empire didn't bombard every planet that rebelled or equiped their footsoldiers with extremely hard to use lightsabers. On the other hand there's no reason for Snoke not to use Magnaguards as his personal protection because the single goal these guards have is to well, protect Snoke.
Your argument hinges on a big old non sequitur though. I don't even need to address it because it doesn't properly follow, which I will explain, but first, I'm using other stupid examples to show you that it doesn't follow what your logic is, IE, just because it wasn't used, doesn't mean it's worse or ineffective. And yet you couldn't stick by your own train of thought in one example. Yes there's reasons, both in universe and out. First off, Snoke is a big copycat of Sidious with those guards, both the color and them being bodyguards. That would be the biggest. Out of universe is that they didn't want PT Guards in there. They don't need a reason in actuality.
Your conclusion is about as valid as saying they're better than Dark Jedi or concluding that Bane's orbalisks are useless because not every Sith was wearing them.
There are reasons for everything, and a lot of the time that reason is just to create something new.
"Your argument has nothing to do with mine"
So what does your argument have to do with actual superiority? I said make your case based on showings, not on a lack of appearances. If your argument is boiled down to "they must be better because they weren't used... 50 years later" then don't act like you're making some amazing point. Yes he could have bought some, just like he could have bought a small army of Destroyer Droids, but the key point is that he didn't, and that proves absolutely nothing. He'd rather have hand selected guards with lightsaber resistant armor than droids no one thought of when they created the Guards.
As for the rest:
"Could cost the Empire resources"
Wasn't your original point that the First Order could build 60k ships so they could buy after market priced Droids, indicating money wasn't an issue? I realize you shifted this to the Empire as opposed to the First Order, but the Empire controlled the whole galaxy and as such is assumed to have way more money.
Yes the extra ordinance could cost money, but not moreso than repeated attacks when the Rebels get away, or the destroyed ships that happen everytime they prolong the attack.
Look at all the resources they wasted on going down to the planet in the last fight in TLJ, when Kylo could have simply killed everyone from orbit.
"There's reasons why he did that though!"
(Not good ones though)
Exactly. And there's reasons why Snoke used human guards over Droids. You just tried to say normal Stormtroopers would have an advantage over Droidekas because of their human factor. Why does that same logic not apply in the case of Magnaguards?
Then Snoke should have trained them in the force and thus they should have used a lightsaber. Therefore we can conclude that the force would only weaken them and they're better with those weapons than they would be with lightsabers backed by the force.
See, there's your logic in a nutshell. You're acting like Snoke perfected the art of picking guards and nothing else could be better. Yet, you unknowingly just admitted they weren't force users and COULD have been better. They should have been dark jedi with a lightsaber, but they weren't. There's no reason why they weren't either. That doesn't mean Dark Jedi are worse than those guards, or being Dark Jedi wouldn't have improved them, it just means they weren't Dark Jedi. Because that's how things work in stories and movies. Not everything fits perfectly into your own headcanon.
First Order Troopers are pretty junk, so I don't really see a point in bringing up flexibility, adapting, or making new plans.
But there's no reason why they couldn't roll out Destroyers on the front lines of every battle and have the highly adaptive First Order Troops in the back. Therefore an all human group is better than a 99 percent human group with nigh invulnerable minigun droids in the frontlines protecting them.
Well, I'll list them again with a little more
Magnaguards would have jumped up in price, would have been hard to get enough, and would have required additional work for upkeep and commands.
Snoke was copycatting Sidious.
No one cared enough about them from the PT to include them.
It wanted to make "new" characters instead of borrowing old characters
Droids were largely looked down upon, and it looks more imposing to have armored humans than filthy droids.
Humans are more adaptable, Snoke could read minds to prevent Droid hacking, and he doesn't have to make special commands for them.
They had lightsaber resistant armor. They would have had to redo sections of the droids to include this type of tech.
He was very egotistical and needed something as a last resort or as something he doesn't feel like dealing with.
Maybe he talked to them, who knows?
And some other dumb reasons you can make up.
If you're going to shift it to Snoke needed absolute protection, then why not just have more guards then? Because he thought 8 was enough? So if he thought 8 was enough for his absolute protection then maybe he didn't think he needed Magnaguards either? He felt perfectly safe, that doesn't mean he couldn't have been MORE safe, just that he didn't think he needed it.
I really shouldn't have had to say any of this. Use the actual showings instead of lack of appearances