New Triumvirate power wank

Started by Deronn_solo3 pages

I thought Sidious was bullshitting when he said Endor wasn't his only death.

No. Around the end of ANH was the the first time, iirc.

Pretty sure Chee said that he was bullshitting.

When and how did he die?

Lmao.

Ninja'd.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Or else, the balance would have been immediattely throw out of the wack the minute he returned,

Pretty sure it was, though I don't have the quote on me.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Pretty sure Chee said that he was bullshitting.

He did.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Pretty sure Chee said that he was bullshitting.

He's not the only one who brings it up.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
He's not the only one who brings it up.

Mind expanding with a source?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Pretty sure it was, though I don't have the quote on me.

If true, wouldn't that outright nulify Anakin fulfilling the Chosen One prophecy, something that he was stated by sources and Lucas himself to achieve?

Lmao.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
If true, wouldn't that outright nulify Anakin fulfilling the Chosen One prophecy, something that he was stated by sources and Lucas himself to achieve?

OOU, yes, we all know that the Sith existing post-RotJ is problematic.

IU though, Palpatine ended up getting defeated by Anakin's children, so his prophecy lives on in a sense.

The intent of DE itself was that Palpatine had died multiple times before the events of RotJ:
https://i.imgur.com/b56WAcI.jpg

However, Chee seemingly 'retconned' that concept in a response on the Dark Horse Comics Battleboard:

TastyTaste/Chee: None of the versions of Palpatine that you see in the films is a clone. The original Palpatine had a normal lifespan. He went through the clone transfer process between Eps VI and DE. (I concede that some "retconning" might need to be considered with the exact wording of the DE text.)
-Source

ILS, what's that source?

Descension?

Star Wars Role Playing Game?

Force and Destiny?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Given that it was stated Sidious' first "death" aboard the Death Star allowed Anakin to fulfill it's prophecy, it's seems pretty clear to me that it was more than just Palpatine's power that caused the imbalance.

Or else, the balance would have been immediattely throw out of the wack the minute he returned, and only got stronger as he further increased his power in the events leading to DE.

I'd say his grip on the galaxy, in conjunction with his Force abilities is what caused the imbalance to be as profound as it was. Hence, why his first Death restored it because his political grip of the galaxy had gone and the Jedi Order was to begin anew.

Except that the imbalance of the Force returned just as Palpatine did, and grew stronger throughout DE. Flex that brain a bit, and you might remember.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t640230.html

On the contrary sweetheart, I remember that clearly.

Now, mind pointing to me where it's stated the Force was severely out of balance, after Palpatine's return? You've established the presence of the dark side was strong upon Sidious return--which is fair, I've proudly admitted Sids' power played a part in initial disparity of the Force--but that hardly speaks of cosmological imbalance.

Neither does it exactly tie-in with sources that acknowledge DE, yet state Palpatine's death aboard the second Death Star ultimately restored balance to the Force and said nothing about it's return upon his 'rebirth'.

Yeah, some dude saying the darkside was getting stronger doesn't mean the Force was unbalanced. 😬

The Force waxes and wanes with the darkside all the time. Big deal.

Sith Triumvirate (Kreia, Sion, Nihilus)?

Yes.

Wasn't Nihilus a walking Force Imbalance, though?