Master Wyellett vs Plo Koon

Originally posted by ILS
I like how Plo's best TK feat was replicated by Orgus Din in the HoT prologue.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Link please, IIRC, Orgus took a lot more time and effort and still didn't do what Plo did.

"This battle's over, but we don't want any more flesh raiders coming through here." Here being a cavern much larger than the cave Plo collapsed:
https://imgur.com/a/LCQOX

And yeah, he's very casual about it.
https://youtu.be/Zr9IIbKiQYQ?t=6m22s

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
link me to a specifc time frame, just click share and check off the "start at" for whatever you want me to see.

Nah. Take ten seconds and find it yourself. Its after the first fight.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nah. Take ten seconds and find it yourself. Its after the first fight.

If not, tis fine, I'd rather talk cowboy bebop on gh

Originally posted by ILS
lol?

"This battle's over, but we don't want any more flesh raiders coming through here." Here being a cavern much larger than the cave Plo collapsed:
https://imgur.com/a/LCQOX

And yeah, he's very casual about it.
https://youtu.be/Zr9IIbKiQYQ?t=6m22s

Regardless that's pretty impressive. I'm guessing Wylett scales from din?

Everything moves a bit slower in SWTOR cutscenes, but regardless, you're wrong. Kun also gestured.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111222381/4441423-0730174862-L7N1k.jpg

And yeah, Wyellett would fodderise Orgus Din. Poor Plo.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Nah, you should be willing to spare the 5 seconds it takes to show people the evidence you're using for your argument.

If not, tis fine, I'd rather talk cowboy bebop on gh

Not my argument, I just found the video you asked for out of the kindness of my heart. Be a bit more grateful in the future and do the rest yourself.

Originally posted by ILS
Everything moves a bit slower in SWTOR cutscenes, but regardless, you're wrong. Kun also gestured.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111222381/4441423-0730174862-L7N1k.jpg

And yeah, Wyellett would fodderise Orgus Din. Poor Plo.

Well, it's poor plo if we want to keep sabers and force separate which you've argued strongly against in the past. If we use the strong correlation between sabers and force argument, koon scales well above qui-gon-jin...

Anyhow, I need to add Cowboy Bebop to the animated show hierarchy, i'll leave you be.

Certainly, you can prove someone's power through their performance in duels as well. I'd love to see an argument for Koon made that way. Scaling him "way above" Qui-Gon seems like a fruitless endeavour, seeing as Jinn performed better against a much tougher opponent (Maul) than Koon was able to (Savage).

Originally posted by ILS
Certainly, you can prove someone's power through their performance in duels as well. I'd love to see an argument for Koon made that way. Scaling him "way above" Qui-Gon seems like a fruitless endeavour, seeing as Jinn performed better against a much tougher opponent (Maul) than Koon was able to (Savage).

The only argument for TPM Maul>Oppress would be that TCW Maul was shown as greatly above Oppress. But we know Maul grows massively during TCW putting Oppress in awe of his growth, so why should we assume TPM Maul gets some sort of back scaling from TCW Maul?

wtf

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Why are we assuming TPM Maul> Oppress?

The only argument for TPM Maul>Oppress would be that TCW Maul was shown as greatly above Oppress. But we know Maul grows massively during TCW putting Oppress in awe of his growth, so why should we assume TPM Maul gets some sort of back scaling from TCW Maul?

Let me simplify.

Plo Koon has better feats, better hype, and can scale off Qui-Gon.

Oppress beat Koon more decisively than TPM Maul could beat Jinn.

As Oppress beat a more impressive opponent more decsively, he'lls prolly better.

This is backed up by a comparison of Oppress and Maul's force feats.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Have you ever read ILS Maul blog? He explains it there bro.

Furthermore, when i advocated for this scaling, ILS was fine with it.

😱 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

It was literally stated that TCW Maul had the same power as TPM when he was first ressurected(which is when he outskilled Opress). He's > Savage even as of TPM.

Dunno why yer getting hysterical now sword man.

When we first discussed it on cv a month ago u said it made sense and when I pointed out that the scaling would put Oppress above TPM Maul, you admitted that was plausible.

link? Sounds retarded as hell.

Originally posted by MythLord
It was literally stated that TCW Maul had the same power as TPM when he was first ressurected(which is when he outskilled Opress). He's > Savage even as of TPM.

Originally posted by ILS
link? Sounds retarded as hell.

To quote
you:

That's an interesting line of scaling, although what about the whole Makashi-Shii Cho thing, and Ventress studying Kit beforehand? Still, makes sense overall.

I'd say that's cancelled out by Koon fighting a superior version.

I should also point out Fisto had a foot injury, but then again, Koon had a broken arm.

The big issue with the scaling would be that it implies Koon is a great deal above Qui-Gon who himself was close to TPM Maul. So for it to work, you'd have to be willing to argue Maul grew massively which I doubt you really mind. It would also place Oppress>TPM Maul...

@kbroskywalker2: TPM Maul did think Koon would be a challenge for him.

Hmm, perhaps this is more reason to think TCW Maul grew a lot. Nice sleuthing.