Originally posted by LordOfTheLightAh, I see the predicament now.
So, do you have Krayt easily beating Mace?Out of curiosity, after these main characters, who do you have in your list? Generally speaking.
I rank Kenobi very highly, and I'd like to think he would give Vaapad Mace a good run for his money by RotS, but then again I doubt Kenobi would do well against Sidious. I think Krayt and Mace are more in line with each other, and Cade and Obi-Wan with each other.
Assuming strongest in terms of actual combat ability (not in order):
Barsen'thor
Luke
Revan
HoT
Yoda
The Exile
The I'm bouncing around between Anakin, Windu, Jaina, Cade, Jacen and Ulic.
I'm not counting either version of Marek because he isn't a Jedi. I'm also not including Durron because he's barely done anything in actual combat that isn't mediocre.
Originally posted by ILS
Ah, I see the predicament now.I rank Kenobi very highly, and I'd like to think he would give Vaapad Mace a good run for his money by RotS, but then again I doubt Kenobi would do well against Sidious. I think Krayt and Mace are more in line with each other, and Cade and Obi-Wan with each other.
I think that peak Kenobi would do just about okay against Mace, i.e., he can contend with Mace, but to say further than that would entail giving Mace less credit than he deserves.
Yeah, and I suppose aside from power, styles do have a role to play in fights as well. Although Krayt beats Cade with pretty ridiculous ease and we can't really reconcile that like this.
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As evidenced by the Claws of the Dragon fight, where in one panel Cade is being beaten to his knees, and then after it cuts back he is on his knees, there are no time skips when there is a break in the fight. Same with the Roan and Draco fight. The fight cuts and yet their conversation carries on seamlessly.
Cade got destroyed.
Let's see all the things that happened in that fight.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with TK. Fails.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with lightning. Fails.
Krayt tries to beat Cade in a dual. Lasts 2-3 minutes.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with illusions. Fails.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with Essence Transfer. Yet despite his boasting he fails.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with Dark Transfer, for which there is no defense. Surprise, he succeeds.
I'm sensing a pattern there mmm
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Let's see all the things that happened in that fight.Krayt tries to dominate Cade with TK. Fails.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with lightning. Fails.
Krayt tries to beat Cade in a dual. Lasts 2-3 minutes.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with illusions. Fails.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with Essence Transfer. Yet despite his boasting he fails.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with Dark Transfer, for which there is no defense. Surprise, he succeeds.I'm sensing a pattern there mmm
Wtf
It was blatantly a curbstomp but I'll leave this to the Sith Emperor's main defender.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanHe held and dragged him through the air during multiple lines of dialogue, not a total ragdoll but close enough. Then beat him in like one panel with sabers. I'd class that as quite the raping.
Let's see all the things that happened in that fight.Krayt tries to dominate Cade with TK. Fails.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with lightning. Fails.
Krayt tries to beat Cade in a dual. Lasts 2-3 minutes.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with illusions. Fails.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with Essence Transfer. Yet despite his boasting he fails.
Krayt tries to dominate Cade with Dark Transfer, for which there is no defense. Surprise, he succeeds.I'm sensing a pattern there mmm
A counter to DT is not getting hit with it, like Krayt was able to avoid in their first fight and how everyone else avoided during their fights with Cade.
Originally posted by ILS
He held and dragged him through the air during multiple lines of dialogue, not a total ragdoll but close enough.
Never happened.
Originally posted by ILS
Then beat him in like one panel with sabers. I'd class that as quite the raping.
Yes it is...if you conveniently ignore the 2-3 minutes off-panel duel.
Originally posted by ILS
A counter to DT is not getting hit with it, like Krayt was able to avoid in their first fight and how everyone else avoided during their fights with Cade.
Which Cade didn't know Krayt has.
Originally posted by Azronger
Link me. Don't recall.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=635756
You can see for yourself the TK blur showing Cade being moved. Not to mention the fact he doesn't leave the air during copious dialogue.
Proof there was a duel off panel? I covered this already. Not to mention it'd be easy for them to make it look close but chose not to, unlike plenty of other duels.
Cade didn't have to take a palm to the chest.
Originally posted by ILS
You can see for yourself the TK blur showing Cade being moved. Not to mention the fact he doesn't leave the air during copious dialogue.
Yes, it's called a force push. And of course he was in the air for the dialogue since it's a comic book 🙄
Originally posted by ILS
Proof there was a duel off panel? I covered this already. Not to mention it'd be easy for them to make it look close but chose not to, unlike plenty of other duels.
Besides it being logical? Show me a duel when it gets cut and nothing happens.
Anyhow here's your proof:
At the start of the duel they were inside the temple:
At the end they are outside:
Originally posted by ILS
Cade didn't have to take a palm to the chest.
That's your excuse? So I guess every duel where a punch occured was an utter stompage. Like for example how Jinn stomped Maul.