Originally posted by One Big Mob
lol at meltdown. When you keep mentioning I post too much on average, does that mean I always have a meltdown or something? The amount of projecting here. You're the one who came at me like I was saying the worst shit ever, instead of just trying to talk about it. You came into the thread like you just got ****ed up the ass out of nowhere.I am glad you calmed down a little though, because your current post is admittedly better, though not good. You must have rinsed all the jizz out of your ass and composed yourself a little more.
When I have repeatedly quoted myself of things clarified of things you accused me of, yeah, that's called context. It's also the reason why you stopped trying to straw man me outside one occasion because you realized how stupid you were acting.
And no, I hope you do read it. It actually forced you to read some of my post and think about it before responding. That's called learning, something I thought you incapable of.
How the absolute **** do you think my first post was an argument, and how do you think the Mother Storm was the main point? It was literally what you keep trying to make fun of me for you dunce.
This is not a fully fledged argument hinging on one thing
Know what the **** you're talking about.
And yes, since you're still somehow way too stupid to get it, it means it shouldn't happen. I've explained my position enough that I actually hope you straw man me again on this. It would prove how big of a retard you are.
At last, something to actually talk about. Why the **** didn't you begin with this instead of getting your panties in a knot? We would have actually had a good discussion without the insults had you not came at me like a scorned baby.
I'll preface my argument since I know you'll have issues with it, and will respond, which will help me clarify more. If you want to start over with the argument, stow the insults, I will be more than glad to only speak of this section, since the rest of the argument has been downright awful, and has been a series of straw mans and nothing besides this. If not, that's fine too... though I do actually want to speak of this.
I don't think I've actually spoken about the new forging of the hammer anywhere to a degree besides one snippet, and would like some back in forth in relation to each other.
There is a vast difference between forging it and breaking it. And it also burnt out a sun within a day and took 17 days and hundreds of dwarves to forge it. It made it malleable enough to work, it did not shatter it, even though it was incredibly hot. And heat, seems to be the key weakness in all these talks of the sun and destroying the hammer. Something that it has faced before, but not something I'm too keen of making these sorts of can or can't do arguments, especially with what is possibly coming up.
So, as we saw, you need incredible heat to forge it. If we assume the Uru was durable enough contain the God Tempest, it would mean that the heat of a full stars life cycle contains more heat than the God Tempest. Which is entirely possible, considering it was the winds that blew out stars. The lightning bolts, while powerful apparently aren't hot enough to break it down. What it does do is prove that the power within the hammer is apparently star level or can effect stars (as we saw previously), but it doesn't prove the heat on its own, which is why it is important to to pair it with other feats of that ilk (like actually entering stars). You've misinterpreted my stance to mean this feat on its own is enough to prove stars can't do anything, when I've said this:
"I wasn't even using it as that great of a feat. I was just using it to [b]flow into it being able to handle going into a sun...
"It's relevant to star stuff, again. So that's an explanation for that, especially when the magics were never said to protect the Uru, again. You're jumping to conclusions just because the presence of magic helped trap something within a rock. Just because a star can help forge it, does not mean that the magic is protecting the Uru from the God Tempest, and even if, why would this not extend to other forms of energy? The magic only protects the hammer all over the place from its own power, but it does nothing for any other form of energy? Is this also the argument?
It wasn't said anywhere it protected the Uru.
Now we'll get onto the Uru in that arc. It was said to be unbreakable, or virtually unbreakable in this arc.
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It would be weird to put such emphasis on this, without actually saying the magic protects the Uru, and not have us assume that Uru is actually the thing that's keeping it together. Like Rage said here:
Oh God, you actually made a decent point just above this, why would you revert back to this shit?
I literally explain this concept more in depth down below. Plus in the section you're speaking of, my argument is under the pretense that the Uru's durability is protecting it from the raging storm that seems to give the hammer a mind of its own. So yes, the raging sentient being inside the hammer would be relevant.
Also, I have no doubts that the unbreakable hammer could withstand the God Tempest had it been outsíde the hammer as well, which is a stark difference in those characters. They have special avenues to release this power, they aren't just "unbreakable" hammers all over the place. [/B]
Odin (who is more powerful than the mother storm) shit himself when it was shown that Asgardia was colliding with sun.
Mangog (who is explicitly more powerful than Odin, Phoenix or Destroyer who has been stated to be more durable than mjolnir) burns in the sun.
The writer more or less confirmed that mjolnir is destroyed and even had Odinson say that it was killed.