Surfer or Mjlonir

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Perfect for raping thorbags left and right 👆

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Celestial's null bomb was about to destroy the Black Galaxy. Thor absorbed the energy, and channeled it into a dying Star.

Mjolnir can not just absorb, channel and redirect ridiculous amounts of energy, it can also Store it for ridiculous lengths of time.

For the record, Remender (The writer of Uncanny) and Aaron worked very closely together during this period because of the Apocalypse fight, and the origins of Thor's axe.

The way it absorbs energy is because of magic. There is no physics connection there. You can't equate being able to absorb energy MAGICALLY with durability against heat and pressure.

Originally posted by Philosophía
What I think of him is irrelevant. Stop trying to deflect onto some gay romance, to hide your hypocrisy.

You omitted context which explicitly says that the storm is trapped inside the uru through dark and primal magic that not even Odin could say. That's not a physical durability feat for Mjolnir. You presented it as such. You keep presenting it as such, when it's said directly that unknown magic was used to trap her there.

You mislead people by not posting the full context.

You can't even own up to that shit.

After you do..

Mjolnir/Mother Storm using their abilities is now proof that Mjolnir can survive inside the sun?

What's next, every time Iron Man sends a repulsor beam it means that he can take it without flinching?

You're going full moron, here. Stop.

You just used operator's example, of Mjolnir passing through the sun at faster than light, to say that it would make it weird if Mjolnir sitting in the sun is destroyed.

You're wrong. That's not how it works.

Are we going to stay pages on-end until you admit you were wrong on both of these points, or can we move on?

I thought a lighter example would be easy enough.

And show you other things, like for example the Sun is not solely about heat!

That being said, it was only stated to have trapped her within the confines. Because she could have escaped otherwise. It was never said to reinforce the Uru from her power. And if you used your head, you'd notice that the ****ing massive storms coming out of the hammer reinforce this belief, which is what I said. I said it right in my post which you blatantly ignored because you're on a witchhunt to crucify anyone who goes against your sugar daddy.

"Considering the lightning still comes out of it, and will still hit Mjolnir, you would assume Mjolnir is still encountering these forces."

The hammer is now only protected from the storm's power, something that was never said on panel, and I'm not supposed to use this as proof or something of it encountering powerful forces. You can literally see Mjolnir sparking up from the galaxy stretching lightning that is coming out of it.
If Mjolnir is encountering forces like this from the Mother Storm, then it reinforces the belief that it can handle the Mother Storm. They flow into each other, they aren't mutually separate. It's an energy inside the hammer that produces overwhelming power that Mjolnir can handle both inside and outside.

And the magic was still not said to protect the Uru either. You're arguing from a lack of proof to try and get me to admit I'm wrong? Yes, I'm wrong because you said he contained it magic that is very much a part of the hammer now, that can literally withstand and channel this power. 😂
Does the hammer now cool down immensely when it releases this type of lightning or something?

And no, Jesus. What a terrible example using Iron Man. I used all those examples of things relevant to a sun to conclude that it should withstand a sun.
All of these storms that come directly out of and hit the hammer are forces it itself is encountering. There's no shield protecting it or what have you, that is its direct durability. It doesn't have literal portals and openings to release the power, the whole ****ing hammer head releases the power. And the whole head gets bombarded with this power as well.

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You're still being a straw man. Post where I said that the hammer passing through the sun in operator's scan was proof alone that it wouldn't be destroyed by sitting in the sun.

I JUST explained it to you. Like come on.

I just used a bunch of examples of it encountering things similar in one way or another to the sun. I never said that one thing or another was definite proof. I never even said the hammer can't be destroyed. I just said that with all factors taken into account, the hammer being destroyed would be weird. I'm very well aware that it might get destroyed, I've said as such in other threads. I'm saying that it would be weird is all. If someone told you that next week Superman is going to get killed by the sun, what would your reaction be?

It's not a difficult concept to think of. I never factored in that it sits in for 10 minutes instead of 1 minute. I just said it would be weird. Stop straw manning me.

😂 at you bringing up the lighter again like I couldn't possibly understand. How about you actually learn how to read my posts instead of all the posturing?
"We don't know what prolonged exposure to the sun can or will do, we just know what has happened in the past. I'm using them to say it shouldn't happen based on prior showings. I'm not talking of prolonged exposure for however long it would theoretically take to break it. Especially when Thor outright says Jane killed the hammer the second she threw it into the sun.

All we can do to say it shouldn't happen is base it on prior showings. We don't have the evidence to say it would break down or wouldn't over a long period of time because it hasn't happened.

If it does happen, and it's attributed to prolonged exposure, there's the one piece of evidence."

I don't get the lighter example though, bring it up again.
To reiterate:

Thor encounter sun. Thor not encounter sun long. We have evidence to say Thor can encounter sun. We not have evidence to say Thor encounter sun long. We not know.

And I didn't even factor in Mjolnir staying in the sun because as I said in the post you just replied to, he said she killed the hammer immediately by sending it into the sun. You're straw manning me saying Thor encountering the sun briefly before is actually me saying that it's evidence of the sun never ever being able to destroy it. Cut it out.

Also, I know the sun isn't just heat. It's also light. 😐

Notice the separation there how the top is "heat and sun stuff along that nature", and the bottom half is entirely heat? It's not that complicated. Stop acting stupid. I wasn't making definitive this is this and everything else is wrong posts, I was just spitballing things relevant to suns.

Wait wait wait....so now when Jane summons the Mother Storm, that has no bearing on the durability of the hammer?

Great Scott!

Philo has officially lost his four remaining brain cells jerking off to Abhil's posts.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I said it right in my post which you blatantly ignored because you're on a witchhunt to crucify anyone who goes against your sugar daddy..

😂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wait wait wait....so now when Jane summons the Mother Storm, that has no bearing on the durability of the hammer?

Great Scott!

Philo has officially lost his four remaining brain cells jerking off to Abhil's posts.

😂

Mister Straws is about to say I was saying Mjolnir can now handle galaxy destroying attacks though, and nothing less will do.

I don't even know what his point so far in this thread has been.

That Mjolnir being destroyed in the Sun is not utterly impossible? Sure, I guess. A Cosmic Entity could also be killed by the Sun depending on the writer. Does it make it likely or even consistent with canon? Hell no.

But I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with those above statements.

Tbh, I don't think he knows his own point either. He'll just post walls of text in the hopes nobody notices.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't even know what his point so far in this thread has been.

That Mjolnir being destroyed in the Sun is not utterly impossible? Sure, I guess. A Cosmic Entity could also be killed by the Sun depending on the writer. Does it make it likely or even consistent with canon? Hell no.

But I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with those above statements.

Tbh, I don't think he knows his own point either. He'll just post walls of text in the hopes nobody notices.

I don't know if this guy hasn't read my posts before, but about 90 percent of them don't exactly contain great context. It's only when I really need address something or explain something.

It's why he's ignoring you too. He wants ME to be wrong. One thing I never said, and one thing changes **** all. He's probably looking through Thor's history to try and disprove something irrelevant to the Mother Storm retcon right now. I might as well have posted the Exitar scene to try and spin that into his storms.

For you who might be unaware, Thor channeled his Godblast into Mjolnir protected by the Belt of Strength into a dome inside Exitar's head, and it broke his hammer. Just thought you should know that Rage, in case I was trying to mislead you.

Damn, Bran is uses walls of text!

How unexpected!

Maybe he says something about abhi!

Maybe he backs down and tries to play it cool!

Which one will it be?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Which apparently if I write short sentences vaguely defining a feat I am guaranteed to be confused, straw manned to shit, and misinterpreted, because I didn't include all the context in 10 words or less on my phone. I actually meant this or that because I used a few words? lol, get ****ed Phildo.

Your entire argument was resting on the hammer's durability containing her when she can snuff out suns.

You were wrong about what was containing her, which is magic, not the hammer's durability.

And the magic was still not said to protect the Uru either. You're arguing from a lack of proof to try and get me to admit I'm wrong?

I don't need to prove that you're wrong.

I need to prove that you're a hypocritical piece of shit, just like most of the people here, but that's always taking the high horse because he has the 'popular' opinions.

So...you can eat shit.

Mother Storm was kept inside by the magics, not Uru. That is clearly stated.

And no, Jesus. What a terrible example using Iron Man.

Brantard: The hammer's output shows how DURABLE the hammer is!
Me: Iron Man's output shows how DURABLE the Iron Man's armor is
Brantard: HOW BAD TO USE IRON MAN!

You're still being a straw man. Post where I said that the hammer passing through the sun in operator's scan was proof alone that it wouldn't be destroyed by sitting in the sun.

You compiled a list of examples of why Mjolnir being destroyed inside the sun would be odd, as a continuation of operator's scan, which you quoted.

I never said that one thing or another was definite proof. I never even said the hammer can't be destroyed. I just said that with all factors taken into account, the hammer being destroyed would be weird.

[...]

I wasn't making definitive this is this and everything else is wrong posts, I was just spitballing things relevant to suns.

HAHAHAHAHA

"I never meant it as proof"
"I never said it would be WRONG....I just said it would be WEIRD!!"
"I never meant them to have context, I was spitballing"

GTFO.

You have your ego so broken [again] that you need rage to console you.

I hope you spontaneously e-combust next time you pick on abhi for ignoring context.

Abhi....feel free to say that you were just 'spitballing stuff' next time Bran talks shit. It definitely works!

Holy shit do you even know how to read Phildo? You're the king of straw in an argument about fire. Look at how mad you are because you made something about nothing though. "He didn't explain everything in a post directed to Operator, he must be deceitful, let me go ****ing ballistic!"

Let us see how much Phildo ignores... almost everything it seems. I am surprised.

Well, let us use the context that Phildo just complained about me not using. What a doofus.

"You're not using context"
"Look at that wall of text full of context"

Simple minds get plowed from behind.

It's one thing to use a short summary of the feat, and it's another thing to make a feat where there is none. It was dark & primal magic by Odin that was keeping the Mother Storm inside the hammer, which has nothing to do with the hammer's durability inside the sun.

Your entire argument was resting on the hammer's durability containing her when she can snuff out suns.

You were wrong about what was containing her, which is magic, not the hammer's durability.

You're an absolute retard if you think I was making an argument in my first post, and also if you think I'm basing everything on it. Just because you ignore the entire post except only what you can or what you think you can address, doesn't mean that's my entire argument. There was a list for a ****ing reason you peon.

The magic was only confining her to the hammer... it was never, not once said to be the the thing protecting Uru. Not even alluded to or implied. Not once Phildo. There is a difference. And considering the storm was still raging from within, and blasting out storms, along with anything else, it stands to reason that the hammer can take it.

You're acting like he could have used a piece of glass and contained the God Tempest.

I've already said it, and you ignored all of it, but let's repeat what Rage said... which you also ignored.

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No, this statement is as stupid as shit and clearly reveals a lack of common sense. The entire comic consistently touched upon the durability of Uru. The opening scene, not tweaks the origins of Uru, it establishes it as a remnant of the dawn of creation to make it's durability even more impressive:

What could be the point of adding another layer to the origin of Uru, and making it even more impressive than it was before?

The Mother Storm was sealed in Uru in part, because it's what Odin had handy, but also, because it's one of the few things that could actually contain it. So yes, it is a statement of it's durability.

Dumbass.

I don't need to prove that you're wrong.

I need to prove that you're a hypocritical piece of shit, just like most of the people here, but that's always taking the high horse because he has the 'popular' opinions.

So...you can eat shit.

Mother Storm was kept inside by the magics, not Uru. That is clearly stated.

Again, you rear your severe lack of reading comprehension if you think this is my argument. I even said it... again, why do I have to keep repeating myself?

"That being said, it was only stated to have trapped her within the confines. Because she could have escaped otherwise. It was never said to reinforce the Uru from her power."

And what do you say in response to this?

"Mother Storm was kept inside by the magics, not Uru. That is clearly stated."

I'm not saying the Uru kept her inside Mr Dunning-Kruger Effect "Everyone is wrong on this forum but me", I'm saying the Uru was never said to be protected against her power. Obviously the magic kept her contained - he just trapped a galaxy sized storm inside a hammer for ****s sake, obviously magic was involved - but the magic keeping her inside does not mean the Uru isn't taking any of the power. Had this been alluded to, or implied to be the case, we could point to it.

BUT YOU CAN'T

You can only make large leaps of logic while ignoring that the ****ing hammer can summon the storm at will and take the storm. We see a galaxy spanning lightning bolt being fired from the hammer that seems to hit it as well. We literally see the hammer get bombarded with its own energy all the time. Lightning bolts come from the sky and hit it, which apparently is just a soft touch. We see the hammer being enveloped in lightning all the time. Are we under the belief that whenever lightning touches the hammer that the hammer being strong has nothing to do with it?

And as for output:

We've seen what happens when he puts too much energy through the hammer. It breaks. It's not infallible at handling this energy. The durability of the Uru has a massive part in this.
And the storms still being capable of galaxy spanning lengths was my original point in saying that the Uru is still containing a large amount of power in the God Tempests.

No, not everytime Thor uses the power is the storm coming back at him, but when that storm is literally inside his hammer, well, that's when it's relevant. It is channeling and capable of handling the power inside it, even when it's outside. If you weren't such a dumb piece of shit, you'd realize the point. Instead you're going to fly into a rage and misinterpret my point as always while ignoring all context.

Also, I see you crying about people having popular opinions pretty often on this forum. I believe you've said it in regards to me before too. You're acting like this is something I relish in or something I bring to the table all the time. You're acting like people even read my posts. Like I don't argue with a lot of people all the time.
Do you even think about what you're posting when you go into your hissy fits? What does this have to do with anything I said? If you're going to be a big crybaby that the whole forum is against abhi you then leave. The forum isn't for you. You and your daddy need a new place. Actually, not even Abhi because he doesn't cry about the mistreatment of him near as much as you. You take the way Abhi is treated harder than Abhi. 😂

I have never seen anyone white knight another person on this forum harder than you swing off his nuts. What was even the point of bringing him up in this thread when you're the ****ing guy ignoring the context of the post? What does he have over you exactly? He's got a massive dick doesn't he? I bet you wish your face was always covered in warm abhi goo.

I don't even mean to insult Abhi here, as I'm sure he doesn't reciprocate the love. I'm just saying that you would love nothing more than him roughing up your anus everyday.

Brantard: The hammer's output shows how DURABLE the hammer is!
Me: Iron Man's output shows how DURABLE the Iron Man's armor is
Brantard: HOW BAD TO USE IRON MAN!

Holy shit are you desperate. 😂

The hammer literally envelops itself in lightning all the time. Iron Man's repulsors largely only go one way. Mjolnir is an "unbreakable" hammer that can fire energy in all directions. It's not the same. I shouldn't have to even explain this to you but you flew into a rage and got desperate.

Iron Man's entire suit isn't made of the same thing that can fire blasts. Nor do the blasts fire back into them all the time.

And if we're speaking of energy absorption, then even that has limits.

Here though, because I have to highlight important points because you're apparently cum drunk and can't think straight.

"All of these storms that come directly out of and hit the hammer are forces it itself is encountering. There's no shield protecting it or what have you, that is its direct durability. It doesn't have literal portals and openings to release the power, the whole ****ing hammer head releases the power. And the whole head gets bombarded with this power as well."

What this means is not necessary everything that comes out of the hammer is its durability (though it does show what's inside the Uru), but when what comes from within and redirects back on Mjolnir? Yeah, it counts as durability. And when energy is flowing through it, the hammer has to be durable enough to withstand this.

Think Superman in the sun. He still has to be durable enough to encounter the sun even if he is getting continuously amped.

HAHAHAHAHA

"I never meant it as proof"
"I never said it would be WRONG....I just said it would be WEIRD!!"
"I never meant them to have context, I was spitballing"

GTFO.

You have your ego so broken [again] that you need rage to console you.

I hope you spontaneously e-combust next time you pick on abhi for ignoring context.

Abhi....feel free to say that you were just 'spitballing stuff' next time Bran talks shit. It definitely works!

Learn how to read.

"I never said that one thing or another was definite proof. I never even said the hammer can't be destroyed. I just said that with all factors taken into account, the hammer being destroyed would be weird."

Which it would be.

I explained my original point and why I posted it (which caused you to explode for no reason because you're simple), and I posted how that differs from what you're accusing me of doing.

Now you got so confused that you're trying to make fun of me for using previous feats of Mjolnir dealing with sun stuff and me saying that it shouldn't be destroyed by it being sent to the sun, which I clarified wasn't a prolonged period of time, but rather a very fast dip which Thor said would kill it as soon as he found out it went to the sun. And yes, I do stand by that. It shouldn't be destroyed just being sent to the sun, and it would be weird. And what my original post was, was spitballing. That is not the ****ing same as you pretending I'm saying it can't be destroyed by an extended stay in the sun, and you know it.

But yes, let's pretend Mjolnir being in the sun multiple times has nothing to do with Mjolnir being destroyed by being sent to the sun (my original point). I've clarified the difference enough times that you'd have to be literally retarded to keep pretending that was my original intent. A ****ing bozo who's trying to insert words in someone's mouth just because he's taken one too many forced jizzshots down his throat. I bet Abhi's never even sucked you off either. Out in the cold friend, always left out.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Your response is an absolute jumbled mess of ideas jumping from every which way. And your end response is literally LoB. I thought you better than this... I was wrong.

If you want to have an insult war, let's have an insult war, no qualms there. But your actual argument is trash. You've dropped every semblance of your original point besides the magic being in the hammer (although you still are made of straws apparently, but you seem to be trying to move away from it), and instead are trying to twist everything I say while I clarify my posts in the very thing you're replying to. Which is my reason for length... to avoid people doing the exact things you're doing. You could read my post and find things that say the exact opposite of what you're saying I said. That's how ****ing stupid your argument is now.

This is only making you look really dumb because you apparently can't read for shit. You lack the ability to insult and actually refute or even read a point, you're terrible at this. Yes, everyone is the problem on the forum but you Mr Straws. Tell me more about how Iron Man's suit is like Mjolnir though.

Originally posted by Philosophia
I don't need to prove that you're wrong.

I need to prove that you're a hypocritical piece of shit, just like most of the people here, but that's always taking the high horse because he has the 'popular' opinions.

So...you can eat shit.

Mother Storm was kept inside by the magics, not Uru. That is clearly stated.

This is spectacularly stupid. Odin trapped the Mother Storm through primal magic in the Uru. This is true:

No where does it say it was his magic preventing the MotherStorm from shattering the Uru and breaking free...that was the inherent durability of the metal.

Why did he use Uru besides, say, a f*cking piece of rock or pottery? Because, and as reinforced multiple times during the comic, it's really f*cking tough. Uru is the toughest and rarest metal in the Universe, a remnant of the rock of creation, that even the forges of the Dwarves could not smelt.

They pulled a Star from the sky and within a day it was destroyed, and that was just to heat the raw Uru enough so they could hammer the edges of the Uru into shape:

What is the take away from all of this? Uru is really really TOUGH, and that toughness is one of the reasons why it can hold the Motherstorm, a cosmic phenomenon that:

"Its winds blew comets, off course, ripped worlds from their orbit, and snuffed out Stars like flickering Candles. Its lightning left clouds of dust where once where moons. Its thunder made even black holes tremble."

That toughness also suggests Mjolnir being destroyed by a Star is really really unlikely and also illogical. Which was Bran's point in the first place.

You are retarded. Also, I didn't realize how much you s*cked Abhiligends cock. Jesus.

Holy shit, two walls of text!

Didn't think I'd get a meltdown out of you, good lord.

Let'see how much shit you can throw.

"Look at that wall of text full of context"

Oh, dear. You're not going to say that your verbal diarrhea has actual substance, will you? You're desperately trying to bury everything in walls of text, hoping nobody will read it, and backing yourself out of the shithole your initial posts were.

Then you're shitstorming with "I'm providing context"

lol

Simple minds get plowed from behind.

I've seen you squat. I'm down for that ass, but I won't use lube.

You're an absolute retard if you think I was making an argument in my first post

Haha, "my first post was just spitballing" strikes again!

You were listing instances that would make Mjolnir being destroyed by the sun contradictory....oh, excuse me....WEIRD!

What does WEIRD mean, branny boy?

The magic was only confining her to the hammer... it was never, not once said to be the the thing protecting Uru.

The magic trapped her inside the Uru material.

That material was then molded USING A STAR into the hammer.

Now, take a deep breath brantard.

Read those last two sentences.

I even underlined the relevant part.

Do you notice something, or are you going to be an idiot?

I bet you sneaky little bugger are going to be the latter!

Let's...simplify it. For simple minds.

Your position is that a being AS BIG AS A GALAXY who SNUFFS OUT SUNS LIKE CANDLES can't BREAK A MATERIAL [URU] THAT IS SPECIFICALLY MOLDED BY A SINGLE STAR IN THE SAME ISSUE, and the PRIMAL MAGICS UNKNOWN EVEN TO ODIN THAT SPECIFICALLY TRAP HER THERE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HER INABILITY TO BREAK IT

Ayyyyy lmao.

I hope everybody reads this.

Branny boy, you're dumber than anybody you're accusing of being dumb.

No, not everytime Thor uses the power is the storm coming back at him, but when that storm is literally inside his hammer, well, that's when it's relevant. It is channeling and capable of handling the power inside it, even when it's outside.

What this means is not necessary everything that comes out of the hammer is its durability (though it does show what's inside the Uru), but when what comes from within and redirects back on Mjolnir? Yeah, it counts as durability. And when energy is flowing through it, the hammer has to be durable enough to withstand this.

You're saying the stupidest shit I've ever seen, bar none.

You're the first person on the forum who's arguing characters releasing their power AWAY from them is actually a durability feat FOR them.

ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CHARACTER THEY'RE RELEASING IS AN ACTUAL SENTIENT BEING

Imagine people arguing that Green Lantern rings are tough enough to take a Krona Blast WITHOUT damage.

Imagine people arguing that Superman's retina is capable of taking supernovas, or blasts that one-shot Despero, or blasts that seal space/time WITHOUT damage.

Imagine Iron Man's armor being capable of tanking all of his attacks WITHOUT DAMAGE.

Imagine not knowing the difference between channeling something, and withstanding it.

Imagine...imagine how dumb you are, bran.

If you do, you will weep.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is spectacularly stupid. Odin trapped the Mother Storm through primal magic in the Uru. This is true:

No where does it say it was his magic preventing the MotherStorm from shattering the Uru and breaking free...that was the inherent durability of the metal.

The storm was WEAKENED with it's long battle with Odin, that's why it was trapped. That's why it cant get out.

And youre still ignoring that the hammer was forge in a star. Why is it so hard to believe that a star can also undo the work?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The storm was WEAKENED with it's long battle with Odin, that's why it was trapped. That's why it cant get out.

And youre still ignoring that the hammer was forge in a star. Why is it so hard to believe that a star can also undo the work?

Imagine how dumb someone has to be to have this train of thought:

Your position is that a being AS BIG AS A GALAXY who SNUFFS OUT SUNS LIKE CANDLES can't BREAK A MATERIAL [URU] THAT IS SPECIFICALLY MOLDED BY A SINGLE STAR IN THE SAME ISSUE, and the PRIMAL MAGICS UNKNOWN EVEN TO ODIN THAT SPECIFICALLY TRAP HER THERE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HER INABILITY TO BREAK IT

😂

Bran and rage ignore context to prop up Thor. Who would've guessed?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The storm was WEAKENED with it's long battle with Odin, that's why it was trapped. That's why it cant get out.

And youre still ignoring that the hammer was forge in a star. Why is it so hard to believe that a star can also undo the work?

Isn’t Mjolnir more durable than raw uru? I was always under the iimpression that Odin’s enchantment makes Mjolnir more durable than ordinary uru and Ordinary uru is what was forged with the enchantment coming after. Asgard has several uru weapons.

Holy shit, two walls of text!

Didn't think I'd get a meltdown out of you, good lord.

Let'see how much shit you can throw.

lol at meltdown. When you keep mentioning I post too much on average, does that mean I always have a meltdown or something? The amount of projecting here. You're the one who came at me like I was saying the worst shit ever, instead of just trying to talk about it. You came into the thread like you just got ****ed up the ass out of nowhere.

I am glad you calmed down a little though, because your current post is admittedly better, though not good. You must have rinsed all the jizz out of your ass and composed yourself a little more.

Oh, dear. You're not going to say that your verbal diarrhea has actual substance, will you? You're desperately trying to bury everything in walls of text, hoping nobody will read it, and backing yourself out of the shithole your initial posts were.

Then you're shitstorming with "I'm providing context"

lol

And no, I hope you do read it. It actually forced you to read some of my post and think about it before responding. That's called learning, something I thought you incapable of.

Haha, "my first post was just spitballing" strikes again!

You were listing instances that would make Mjolnir being destroyed by the sun contradictory....oh, excuse me....WEIRD!

What does WEIRD mean, branny boy?

How the absolute **** do you think my first post was an argument, and how do you think the Mother Storm was the main point? It was literally what you keep trying to make fun of me for you dunce.

This is not a fully fledged argument hinging on one thing

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I was waiting until someone posted this.

So, off the top of my mind Mjolnir has been used against heat and sun stuff along that nature:
To capture the Mother Storm who could snuff out suns
It burned out a sun forging it
It went into the sun against Gorr
The Atum fight
It was taking blasts from Phoenix when its heat was felt galaxies away
To enter the sun and kill the Builder
To turn a supernova comet back into a sun

And then you have all the "heat of a thousand cocks" shit along with big bang whatever shit. Plus the Twilight Sword and however hot Mephisto's hell is. Glory and Firelord's fire. It also releases lightning all the time and released a Mother Storm from the hammer that should have been pretty hot with all the giant lightning and shit. Anti Twilight also got burned off of Mjolnir when he stabbed Surtur in Everything Burns.

It would seem odd if a sun destroyed Mjolnir to me. Not saying he isn't going to write it, but it wouldn't be the greatest thing.

Know what the **** you're talking about.

And yes, since you're still somehow way too stupid to get it, it means it shouldn't happen. I've explained my position enough that I actually hope you straw man me again on this. It would prove how big of a retard you are.

The magic trapped her inside the Uru material.

That material was then molded USING A STAR into the hammer.

Now, take a deep breath brantard.

Read those last two sentences.

I even underlined the relevant part.

Do you notice something, or are you going to be an idiot?

I bet you sneaky little bugger are going to be the latter!

Let's...simplify it. For simple minds.

Your position is that a being AS BIG AS A GALAXY who SNUFFS OUT SUNS LIKE CANDLES can't BREAK A MATERIAL [URU] THAT IS SPECIFICALLY MOLDED BY A SINGLE STAR IN THE SAME ISSUE, and the PRIMAL MAGICS UNKNOWN EVEN TO ODIN THAT SPECIFICALLY TRAP HER THERE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HER INABILITY TO BREAK IT

Ayyyyy lmao.

I hope everybody reads this.

Branny boy, you're dumber than anybody you're accusing of being dumb.

At last, something to actually talk about. Why the **** didn't you begin with this instead of getting your panties in a knot? We would have actually had a good discussion without the insults had you not came at me like a scorned baby.

I'll preface my argument since I know you'll have issues with it, and will respond, which will help me clarify more. If you want to start over with the argument, stow the insults, I will be more than glad to only speak of this section, since the rest of the argument has been downright awful, and has been a series of straw mans and nothing besides this. If not, that's fine too... though I do actually want to speak of this.

I don't think I've actually spoken about the new forging of the hammer anywhere to a degree besides one snippet, and would like some back in forth in relation to each other.

There is a vast difference between forging it and breaking it. And it also burnt out a sun within a day and took 17 days and hundreds of dwarves to forge it. It made it malleable enough to work, it did not shatter it, even though it was incredibly hot. And heat, seems to be the key weakness in all these talks of the sun and destroying the hammer. Something that it has faced before, but not something I'm too keen of making these sorts of can or can't do arguments, especially with what is possibly coming up.

So, as we saw, you need incredible heat to forge it. If we assume the Uru was durable enough contain the God Tempest, it would mean that the heat of a full stars life cycle contains more heat than the God Tempest. Which is entirely possible, considering it was the winds that blew out stars. The lightning bolts, while powerful apparently aren't hot enough to break it down. What it does do is prove that the power within the hammer is apparently star level or can effect stars (as we saw previously), but it doesn't prove the heat on its own, which is why it is important to to pair it with other feats of that ilk (like actually entering stars). You've misinterpreted my stance to mean this feat on its own is enough to prove stars can't do anything, when I've said this:

"I wasn't even using it as that great of a feat. I was just using it to flow into it being able to handle going into a sun..."

It's relevant to star stuff, again. So that's an explanation for that, especially when the magics were never said to protect the Uru, again. You're jumping to conclusions just because the presence of magic helped trap something within a rock. Just because a star can help forge it, does not mean that the magic is protecting the Uru from the God Tempest, and even if, why would this not extend to other forms of energy? The magic only protects the hammer all over the place from its own power, but it does nothing for any other form of energy? Is this also the argument?

It wasn't said anywhere it protected the Uru.

Now we'll get onto the Uru in that arc. It was said to be unbreakable, or virtually unbreakable in this arc.

https://imgur.com/MBJAJhl
https://imgur.com/HDdN4PA

It would be weird to put such emphasis on this, without actually saying the magic protects the Uru, and not have us assume that Uru is actually the thing that's keeping it together. Like Rage said here:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is spectacularly stupid. Odin trapped the Mother Storm through primal magic in the Uru. This is true:

No where does it say it was his magic preventing the MotherStorm from shattering the Uru and breaking free...that was the inherent durability of the metal.

Why did he use Uru besides, say, a f*cking piece of rock or pottery? Because, and as reinforced multiple times during the comic, it's really f*cking tough. Uru is the toughest and rarest metal in the Universe, a remnant of the rock of creation, that even the forges of the Dwarves could not smelt.

They pulled a Star from the sky and within a day it was destroyed, and that was just to heat the raw Uru enough so they could hammer the edges of the Uru into shape:

What is the take away from all of this? Uru is really really TOUGH, and that toughness is one of the reasons why it can hold the Motherstorm, a cosmic phenomenon that:

"Its winds blew comets, off course, ripped worlds from their orbit, and [b]snuffed out Stars like flickering Candles. Its lightning left clouds of dust where once where moons. Its thunder made even black holes tremble."

That toughness also suggests Mjolnir being destroyed by a Star is really really unlikely and also illogical. Which was Bran's point in the first place.

You are retarded. Also, I didn't realize how much you s*cked Abhiligends cock. Jesus. [/B]

You're saying the stupidest shit I've ever seen, bar none.

You're the first person on the forum who's arguing characters releasing their power AWAY from them is actually a durability feat FOR them.

ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CHARACTER THEY'RE RELEASING IS AN ACTUAL SENTIENT BEING

Imagine people arguing that Green Lantern rings are tough enough to take a Krona Blast WITHOUT damage.

Imagine people arguing that Superman's retina is capable of taking supernovas, or blasts that one-shot Despero, or blasts that seal space/time WITHOUT damage.

Imagine Iron Man's armor being capable of tanking all of his attacks WITHOUT DAMAGE.

Imagine not knowing the difference between channeling something, and withstanding it.

Imagine...imagine how dumb you are, bran.

If you do, you will weep.

I literally explain this concept more in depth down below. Plus in the section you're speaking of, my argument is under the pretense that the Uru's durability is protecting it from the raging storm that seems to give the hammer a mind of its own. So yes, the raging sentient being inside the hammer would be relevant.

Also, I have no doubts that the unbreakable hammer could withstand the God Tempest had it been outsíde the hammer as well, which is a stark difference in those characters. They have special avenues to release this power, they aren't just "unbreakable" hammers all over the place.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Holy shit are you desperate. 😂

The hammer literally envelops itself in lightning all the time. Iron Man's repulsors largely only go one way. Mjolnir is an "unbreakable" hammer that can fire energy in all directions. It's not the same. I shouldn't have to even explain this to you but you flew into a rage and got desperate.

Iron Man's entire suit isn't made of the same thing that can fire blasts. Nor do the blasts fire back into them all the time.

And if we're speaking of energy absorption, then even that has limits.

Here though, because I have to highlight important points because you're apparently cum drunk and can't think straight.

"All of these storms that come [b]directly out of and hit the hammer are forces it itself is encountering. There's no shield protecting it or what have you, that is its direct durability. It doesn't have literal portals and openings to release the power, the whole ****ing hammer head releases the power. And the whole head gets bombarded with this power as well."

What this means is not necessary everything that comes out of the hammer is its durability (though it does show what's inside the Uru), but when what comes from within and redirects back on Mjolnir? Yeah, it counts as durability. And when energy is flowing through it, the hammer has to be durable enough to withstand this.

Think Superman in the sun. He still has to be durable enough to encounter the sun even if he is getting continuously amped. [/B]

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The storm was WEAKENED with it's long battle with Odin, that's why it was trapped. That's why it cant get out.

And youre still ignoring that the hammer was forge in a star. Why is it so hard to believe that a star can also undo the work?

See my earlier post. You...just made that up? Post a scan? Because everyone thought the Motherstorm was dead but Jane released it, it was instantly recognized and spanned a Galaxy...

Read Thor #12. A Star died just heating the metal enough so it could be hammered into shape. And even, then, it took the efforts of all the dwarves and seventeen days; the metal resisted the entire process. Even after the Star died, raw uru was almost impossible to forge. And that was before the enchantment.

Again, a Star died just to heat the metal to be shaped slightly. You could leave Mjolnir in the Sun until it dies and it wouldn't be scruffed.

Thats the irony of all this is, Aaron's own retcon makes Mjolnir far more durable and special in origin outside of it being Thor's hammer.

Because I read Aaron's run from start to finish? Aaron has a plot point where Thor has a headquarters in the heart of the Sun as a cosmic cop. Ultimate Mjolnir survived the destruction of the Universe as the walls of creation fell around it. I think it's pretty clear that for this Mangog story line to make sense, we have to basically ignore everything else.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Bran and rage ignore context to prop up Thor. Who would've guessed?

You have nothing to offer to this conversation.

Piss off Ghost!