I just want to know how Yo-Yo is getting blitzed (especially by Wonder Woman) when she has done things like this herself. From about 0:40 to 1:08:
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I just want to know how Yo-Yo is getting blitzed (especially by Wonder Woman) when she has done things like this herself. From about 0:40 to 1:08:
You'll have to forgive relentless, he is a massive DC Fanboy. He actually used to argue that Bale Batman would beat MCU Captain America
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerHow fast do you believe Yo-Yo to be going in this clip?
I just want to know how Yo-Yo is getting blitzed (especially by Wonder Woman) when she has done things like this herself. From about 0:40 to 1:08:
Originally posted by NemeBro
How fast do you believe Yo-Yo to be going in this clip?
Much faster than I have ever seen Wonder Woman move during a fight. And that is just one feat out of many. It's hard to actually gauge her exact speed though, because it's kind of a situation where her speed can vary depending on plot, and she also has some feats that are rather difficult to accurately quantify:
Flash is quite possibly superior to her in pure speed but, as pointed out by others, he was a wimp and also literally fell over his own feet at points. Flash was somewhat portrayed like the current MCU version of Spiderman was in Homecoming. Powerful, but kind of incompetent.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Problem with Yo-Yo is she has to always return to the same spot. Thats a huge limitation for a speedster, and Pretty dangerous if her opponents know that.
It's also proven to her advantage in the past as well (where the sling back effect has pulled her from a dangerous position). And why would there be any reason for her opponents here to know that? Other than her SHIELD teammates, how many other people in the MCU even know that?
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
It's also proven to her advantage in the past as well (where the sling back effect has pulled her from a dangerous position). And why would there be any reason for her opponents here to know that? Other than her SHIELD teammates, how many other people in the MCU even know that?
You think that’s an advantage? That she will come back to the same spot where WW or Aquaman are about to punch her head off?
Depends on the stips. Sometimes combatants have basic knowledge of their opponents.
I said that it has worked as one before. And that greatly depends on what happens in between the time she starts moving and the time she returns to that spot. You're assuming someone is just going to be there at that point to do so, or even know that this would be a potential option.
How is that basic knowledge when only people with high level SHIELD clearance and maybe handful of others know it?
Originally posted by NemeBro
That didn't answer my question, it avoided answering it entirely. How fast is Yo-Yo? Answer the question.
I literally told you that I can't give you a specific number on her, due to plot power fluctuations, in the part of my post you conveniently cut. In one episode, she will disarm a single person in the same amount of screen time it takes her to disarm and tie up multiple people in another episode. But you don't need a specific number to be able to tell she has multiple speed feats that are better than anything Wonder Woman has done. You just need to be familiar with her overall feats.
Relevant bit is from 1:20 to 2:00.
When has Diana ever done anything like that? Like I said, Flash is a different story, but he is lacking in experience and training in comparison to Yo-Yo, who is an experienced SHIELD field agent.
What's more, the burden of proof isn't on me here. Relentless1 made the original claim. All I did was ask him what he was basing it on, given Yo-Yo's own feats, of which I have provided more than one. It's his job to show that they have the required speed relative to her to "easily" blitz her. He has yet to do so. And if he doesn't know how fast Yo-Yo is, he can't justifiably claim that they can (nor can anyone else). I'm not going to do all the work while the other side just throw out claims and make demands.
Another thing to note in that last clip I posted. Despite the fact that she supposedly always has to return to the same spot, she doesn't there. If you pause it at 1:24, you can see her speed trail going back up the stairs from outside the room. But she stops in the room to see the results of her handiwork, at around 2:00. Which goes back to what I said about plot dictating her powers at different points.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I said that it has worked as one before. And that greatly depends on what happens in between the time she starts moving and the time she returns to that spot. You're assuming someone is just going to be there at that point to do so, or even know that this would be a potential option.How is that basic knowledge when only people with high level SHIELD clearance and maybe handful of others know it?
My point was, even without that knowledge, if WW or Aquaman goes to punch her, she wont dodge it because after her speed thing she will be right back where she started right?
It then wouldnt take long for the team to figure out her weakness, assuming she evades those first punches. In fact Flash would likely see her move back to her starting point.
The yo-yo trick usually works against regular humans. I dont remember her KOing anyone particularly superhumanly strong in her the middle of her Yo-Yo effect. I might not be remembering a few instances though.
That is a lot of reaching on your part. How do you know their punch effort is going to line up exactly with that moment? You think they are going to happen to be in the right spot to do it, know that it needs to be done in that specific spot, because noob Flash possibly sees her go back to her starting point and somehow quickly knows that she has to? While also having to deal with other team members as well? And that's, you know, despite me just posting in an instance where she doesn't return to her starting point?