Originally posted by Kurk
Dooku is tier 8, Mace is tier 8Fisto is tier 7 and lasted the longest against Sidious
Agen and Tiin are likely low 7's maybe even bordering 6.Kenobi in AotC was a 7 and Dooku merked him.
Dooku can take this 🙂
Mace is likely tier 9. On Gilliard’s most recent tier he and yoda are on the same level and,
Originally posted by JMANGO
Still scraping accolades from bottom of the barrel sources i see.
“Though Yoda’s junior by hundreds of years, Mace Windu was considered Yoda’s equal in terms of ability, insight, and command.”
-- Power of the Jedi Sourcebook
Perhaps only Mace was his(Yoda) equal in skill
-- Power of the Jedi Sourcebook
And we have the ROTS novel which implies Mace is Yoda’s superior in dueling and the myriad quotes implying parity in power.
Originally posted by Kurk
Also:RotS script states that Sidious was about to succumb to Yoda in their saber duel.
Both Sidious and Dooku lasted about the same time against Yoda in sabers before they resorted to different means.
But Sidious>>>>>B-team
So:
Yoda>Sidious>=Dooku>>>B-team
🙂
It also evident based on all primary sources that Yoda outclassed Dooku.
Seething, the Count ignited is lightsaber and charged. He attacked ferociously, but Yoda’s superior command of the Force prevented Dooku from landing a single blow. Finally, the Count slowed.
Then Yoda attacked. The small but powerful Jedi flew forward, his lightsaber a blur of light. Dooku did not stand a chance against his old Master’s magnificent lightsaber skills.
“Fought well you have, my old Padawan,” Yoda said when the Count retreated.
Attack of the Clones Movie Sourcebook
Dooku's lightsaber flashed in an elaborate salute. "Master Yoda, now we shall discover who is most powerful."
The Count flew across the space between them, his lightsaber raining blows on the small Jedi Master. Yoda did not give a centimeter. He stood beneath the storm, calmly deflecting blow after blow. As Dooku's fury increased, his strength failed, and his blows became less skillful.
Suddenly, Yoda attacked. His lightsaber was so fast that it seemed like a solid wall of light. Dooku cried out in amazement and stumbled.
"Powerful you have become," Yoda said. "I sense the dark side in you."
They crossed swords, and again Yoda mastered him easily.
"Fought well, you have, my old Padawan."
Count Dooku gasped for breath. "The battle is far from over. This is only the beginning."
Attack of the Clones Mighty Chronicles
Count Dooku whirls his lightsaber in a formal salue. Yoda draws his lightsaber. Suddenly, Count Dooku charges across the space at YODA. He rains down blows upon the tiny figure. YODA doesn't budge an inch. For the first part of the contest, he parries every cut and thrust that Dooku aims. Nothing the great swordsman tries gets through. His energy drains. His strokes become feebler, slower.
YODA attacks! He flies forward. COUNT DOOKU is forced to retreat. Words are insufficient to describe the range and skill of Yoda's speed and swordplay. His lightsaber his a humming blur of light. Finally, their blades cross and the fighting slows.
Attack of the Clones Script
Count Dooku immediately unleashes his finest assault yet on Yoda. As expert as Dooku's attacks are, none get past the Jedi Master's defenses. With each failed thrust, Dooku's strength weakens as he realizes he is not the most powerful Jedi after all.
Sensing his opponent's fatigue, Yoda at last reveals why he is considered the most powerful of the Jedi. Unable to keep pace with Yoda's awesome attack, Dooku is forced back!
Realizing he is no match for Yoda, Dooku makes for his ship.
Attack of the Clones Comic
Yoda drew his lightsaber and answered the salute. In contests, he had no interest, but in stopping Count Dooku, he had a great deal of interest indeed. And Dooku had left him no other choice.
Count Dooku charged forward. Yoda sighed. Nothing has he learned. Nothing has he remembered. He closed his eyes, bowed his head, and felt the Force that bound all things, even himself and the Count. His lightsaber moved effortlessly, flowing with the Force to find the balance point between them and block Dooku’s every stroke. He did not even have to step back.
The Count’s attack grew more desperate, to no avail. Breathing hard, he backed away, but Yoda did not pursue him. To stop Dooku was all that was necessary, and he could not pass Yoda to reach his Solar Sailer.
The Count slowed once more, then stopped, his blade braced against Yoda’s. Yoda could feel him drawing on the dark side in an attempt to press Yoda’s weapon back, but the dark side was only an easier path, not a stronger one. Backed by the full power of the true Force, Yoda’s lightsaber was unmovable.
“Fought well, you have, my old Padawan,” Yoda said gently, giving him the truth, though he knew that the Count would not want to hear it. Count Dooku had never been happy to merely fight well; the best he must be, always. But not this time.
Attack of the Clones Junior Novel
Ultimately, it came down to a battle of lightsabers. Dooku drew his weapon and leapt to attack. Yoda pushed back his cloak and called his own lightsaber to his hand. With a shout, Yoda leapt into battle in a dizzying flurry of motion.
Count Dooku used a mix of subtle blade engagements and crashing blows. Yoda used the force of Dooku’s attacks to propel his own leaping, spinning assault. Though Dooku was recognized as a master with a lightsaber, Yoda was simply never where the Count’s blade struck. The first exchange as the combatants paused, blades lock.
Yoda pushed up a gear, shifting Dooku’s blade away and launching a frightening attack, his shrill battle-cry echoing around the chamber. Yoda’s tumbling leaps now changed direct in midair as he rained blows down on a frantically defending Dooku.
Barely showing the stress of battle, Yoda drew Dooku into outstretching and unbalancing himself, before he, once again, locked lightsabers with his former Padawan.
Count Dooku was many things, but he was no fool. Knowing he was bested and facing imminent defeat and death if the conflict continued, Dooku reached out with the Force and crushed the base of a nearby piece of heavy machinery
Fact Files 51 and 65
These are the primary sources not secondary descriptions. The adult novel portrays Yoda as Dooku’s clear superior, but he does put up a better fight.
Originally posted by Kurk
Nah I'm getting appx 30 secs for both of them. I start counting once the Chancellor's stage starts to rise as this is when they actually start fighting furiously. Dooku and Yoda hit at full force; whereas Yoda and Sheev go into it slowly if you will.
@DSO
No doubt Yoda is Dooku's superior, but he also superior to Palpatine.
YODA unleashes a ferocious assault on PALPATINE, causing him to almost go over the edge. The Dark Lord drops his lightsaber but recovers with a BLAST OF ENERGY from his hands that surrounds YODA.
But even before this Sheev was trying to escape from Yoda:
PALPATINE seeks refuge in the vast Senate Chamber. He gets into the Chancellor's Podium and it starts to rise up into the Arena. YODA makes a giant leap into the control pod. The sword fighting is intense in the confined space.
Dooku ran away from Yoda, so did Sheev. The difference is that Sheev was able to resort to his force abilities when he realized he was the inferior duelist while Dooku couldn't.
@ANT
How do we know how much was off-screen?