Originally posted by Philosophía
What we here here is an opportunity to dissect a Thorbag's small brain.First we look at what he said:
Now we look at how the fight went:
Then we weep.
Looks to me as if Gladiator was toying with Piotr. He never had to trade blows if he didn't want to make sport of the confrontation after all.
Originally posted by StoicThen you are trolling. Everyone who read that fight felt the two were closely match with Gladiator being a little superior (not a lot). The writer even gives us a narrative that paints that picture.
Looks to me as if Gladiator was toying with Piotr. He never had to trade blows if he didn't want to make sport of the confrontation after all.
They're standing toe to toe....giving everything they have, trading blows, not letting up, one is irresistible, the other, immovable, until the building collapses and Gladiator slowly, painfully, stands up......yeah, they were pretty equal.
Put Wolverine in Colossus' place and he'd have killed Glads.
Originally posted by h1a8
Then you are trolling. Everyone who read that fight felt the two were closely match with Gladiator being a little superior (not a lot). The writer even gives us a narrative that paints that picture.
That's one of Colossus best showings. It isn't a knock against Gladiator, it's a praise for Colossus. High showing. Kinda like her fights against Batman. Batman have taken down the JLA, including her. Its not a knock against the team, its a high showing for Batman. Wonder Woman still wins this though.
Originally posted by h1a8
Then you are trolling. Everyone who read that fight felt the two were closely match with Gladiator being a little superior (not a lot). The writer even gives us a narrative that paints that picture.
Look at the smile on Gladiator's face. Notice how he stood there and took an assault without flinching. Gladiator was obviously pulling his punches.
So Colossus wasn't fighting an uphill battle? Gladiator had to stand toe to toe with him? No speed argument? No mentions of Gladiator being far stronger, and tougher than Colossus? No mentions of the possible likelihood of hyperbole stitched into narration that was obviously placed for the sole purpose of creating drama, where none should have existed? On paper, and in a forum setting, Gladiator would destroy Colossus. But yeah, let's ignore facts.
I think you (and obviously Carver) are misunderstanding Phil's post.
The original post was that Gladiator beat the shit out of Colossus. Not 'this is what happens in a forum fight', or 'that fight was PIS because Gladiator is far superior', but that Gladiator casually made mincemeat out of Colossus.
Hence the scans. Showing that in FACT, Colossus and Glads were portrayed as equals by narration. THAT'S the debate we are having. It's not about a forum fight between the two, or Glads' speed - it's about Rage's interpretation of the scene.
Originally posted by carver9He stated that both feats were unquantifiable.
How much of the weight did she pull?
But we don't know the writers intentions, or we could just as easily claim that they intended for the viewer to believe that 616 Gladiator could replicate anything that his alternate time line self could. So yeah, let's stick to having no way of reliably quantifying the pulling feat. This way no one can claim that you deal in double standards h1.
Originally posted by h1a8Who told you that the planet was smaller than Earth yet bigger than the moon? Where did you get light atmosphere from?
He stated that both feats were unquantifiable.
But in reality they aren't since we know writers intentions. Clearly WW contributed a significant amount to the pulling. She at least pulled with 1/10th of the total pull force. Glads was intended to bust a planet with a light atmosphere (smaller than Earth but bigger than a moon). IMO Glads is definitely stronger than WW. See Carver Im not bias. WW has hax weapons with insane reflexes and fighting skill though.
Originally posted by Stoic
But we don't know the writers intentions, or we could just as easily claim that they intended for the viewer to believe that 616 Gladiator could replicate anything that his alternate time line self could. So yeah, let's stick to having no way of reliably quantifying the pulling feat. This way no one can claim that you deal in double standards h1.
It takes average intelligence to know the writer's intentions. If WW wasn't pulling with a significant portion then the writer wouldn't had her pulling with the other two at all. It's all about perception as a near peer. It was stated in D.C. comics that WW is stronger than Hercules. And Superman was never shown to be many many times stronger than DC Hercules. WW is not as strong as Superman but she is in the vicinity to a degree.