Anyways, in all seriousness, Danny's stock has steadily risen for the past few decades.
Even I never would have argued he could walk off getting his back broken, but that's exactly what Bendis had him do. And he's taken abuse on par with Wolverine on several occasions, such as taking a fall from airplane heights, and just walking it off.
Vader can toss him around, maybe. But do any sort of real damage?
He's have to completely immobolize him and cut his head off, pretty much. And he couldn't even choke a Rancor because of a metal plate around its neck, much less use the force to throw it around. He ended up spearing it with a thrown lightsaber.
Try that on any Marvel martial artist, they'd avoid it and break the device..
Originally posted by cdtmYou're very generously playing up iron fist while simultaneously lowballing vader. Vader's shown that he can easily lift and crush a multi ton AT-AT. He easily lifted an AT-ST after it fell on him. How exactly is rand going to resist him crushing his heart or brain?
Anyways, in all seriousness, Danny's stock has steadily risen for the past few decades.Even I never would have argued he could walk off getting his back broken, but that's exactly what Bendis had him do. And he's taken abuse on par with Wolverine on several occasions, such as taking a fall from airplane heights, and just walking it off.
Vader can toss him around, maybe. But do any sort of real damage?
He's have to completely immobolize him and cut his head off, pretty much. And he couldn't even choke a Rancor because of a metal plate around its neck, much less use the force to throw it around. He ended up spearing it with a thrown lightsaber.
Try that on any Marvel martial artist, they'd avoid it and break the device..
Even his durability is ridiculous. He tanked a nuclear reactor going critical and blowing up the facility he was in. He walked off a sith temple blowing up underneath him. He even tanked having a whale ship flown directly into the Executor and the resulting explpsion that damaged the star destroyer.
Originally posted by cdtm1. You just lied.
Current Vader did none of those things.But even if he did, none of those feats are beyond Iron Fist. He'a suvived nukes and destroyed the better part of a city with a single punch. At his best, he punch's out peers of Thor and reality warping, civilization soul reaping otherworldly demons.
2.Try to educate yourself on who it is that you're talking about before making false statements.
3. Still no answer for having his heart crushed.
4. What's stopping Vader from using his tk to stop danny mid punch?
5. You're highballing.
Originally posted by deathslash
You're very generously playing up iron fist while simultaneously lowballing vader. Vader's shown that he can easily lift and crush a multi ton AT-AT. He easily lifted an AT-ST after it fell on him. How exactly is rand going to resist him crushing his heart or brain?Even his durability is ridiculous. He tanked a nuclear reactor going critical and blowing up the facility he was in. He walked off a sith temple blowing up underneath him. He even tanked having a whale ship flown directly into the Executor and the resulting explpsion that damaged the star destroyer.
Is that from the currents books or from Legends?
Originally posted by Kazenji
Is that from the currents books or from Legends?
Sounds like Legends stuff to me.
They did have crazy stuff back then. But the last Vader story before the current one was a lot more in keeping with movie power levels.
Basically, he could slaughter mooks all day, but not bring down f'n Star Destroyers or raze worlds with Force Storms.. Put Optimus Prime in front of EU Vader and he tears him apart. Bring in the Vader of that last series, and he gets stepped on.
Like I said, a modified Rancor was basically knocking him all over the room. And Vader couldn't choke him out, because of a metal plate put in its throat.
Originally posted by deathslashyeah, I already had this argument with Sin back in the Vader vs Omega Red thread. All of these are current canon feats too...
Alright, I know it's been like a full day since you posted this, but I needed time to properly research for my counter argument. Here it goes:1. This is indeed his fight to lose. I'll explain below.
2. Is this really a statement? Fine, I'll indulge you and prove that his durability is enough.
Has two AT-ST's fall on top of him. Gets up without even a single scratch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PFK1YmIwglsTanks AT-AT blasts:
https://m.imgur.com/TYNSlIcGets bashed by an adrenaline enhanced Rancor. Just fine:
https://m.imgur.com/UqvwLpBSurvives being on a whale ship as it literally crashes and explodes on impact with the Executor:
https://m.imgur.com/a/NPTeCSurvives the destruction of an entire weapons factory.
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125553-vader+survives+factory+explosion.jpgWith that said, I'm not sure how Arkady is even going to hit him since he can do this:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125548-blocks+flames.pngAnd since he's fast enough to block all of these:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125590-creates+dozens+of+after+images.jpg4. And yet in his most recent fight with Deadpool, he solidly lost and was even getting cut up by Wade's completely normal sword. Have you actually read anything with Omega Red in it recently? He's tough, but not nearly what you're making him out to be.
5. Force choke is clearly one of his go to methods for killing.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/4628382-chokes+an+imperial+orbiting+the+planet+he+was+on.jpghttps://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5008371-double+force+choke.jpg
Matter of fact, choking people or snapping their necks is what he does almost every time. This is immediately after taking AT-AT fire btw:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/4628392-withstands+atat+fire+and+breaks+a+clones+neck.jpg6. How will the coils reach him if Vader holds him a safe distance away? Better yet, how will the coils hit the guy that essentially was first holding off
https://m.imgur.com/CzS8H8VAnd then beating an enhanced version of Grievous:
https://m.imgur.com/a/4HmLNOr fighting two cybernetically enhanced warriors with 20 years of training.
https://m.imgur.com/a/lSANNAnd then having the upper hand even when he gets jumped:
https://m.imgur.com/a/s5zxqOh my, is this Vader going for the easy win with tk?
https://m.imgur.com/a/CaLh4If you want, I can post some more scans or sources, as this has been a very fun discussion, but still:
https://i.imgur.com/tlaq5zU_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
