Darth Vader Vs Iron Fist

Originally posted by cdtm
And again, Danny KO'd Bres.

Hell, a drunken half god Herc can tank everything on your list that Vader endured.

I'm not saying these aren't impressive durability feats, but I think you need to see more of Iron Fist in the same way you think we need to see more of Vader.

okay, I'm going to say this again. You still have yet to mention how Danny is going to resist let alone survive getting his heart crushed. You still have yet to acknowledge that you've been massively lowballing Vader. You still have yet to acknowledge that you quite literally lied about Vader having none of these feats.

Originally posted by deathslash
*sigh* Hercules is a high herald.

Originally posted by Philosophía
lol

Originally posted by deathslash
his fights against Thor, hulk, the thing, Ares, Sentry, and several others is all the evidence that you should need.....

Magneto would literally rape Hercules with a pole, and he's low-herald.

Many of the low-heralds would savage Hercules:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t447826.html

Originally posted by deathslash
*sigh* Hercules is a high herald. Even with only half of his power, he'd still be a low herald. If he were drunk, of course the pain wouldn't effect him as much. Also, where exactly is Hercules coming from?

I'm glad you said all this and not me 🙂

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Originally posted by cdtm
I'm glad you said all this and not me 🙂

💃

Assume away. Gotta stick to your strengths. 🙂

Originally posted by cdtm
Assume away. Gotta stick to your strengths. 🙂

"Herc is a high herald. So what?"

*Posts scan of Danny KO'ing Herc.*

"Now about that heart crush.."

Originally posted by cdtm
"Herc is a high herald. So what?"

*Posts scan of Danny KO'ing Herc.*

"Now about that heart crush.."

Danny could win in a comic. Forum fight goes to Vader, though.

tk is just so damn hard to argue against.... if he could release some type of AOE attack WHILE being heart squeezed, or choked or pinned, he COULD possibly stun vader and have a chance to attack. but vader's durability is pretty damn high and the odds seem pretty stacked against danny to pull off something like that....

Originally posted by deathslash
the difference is that I've never once denied that danny could take him out with a punch. You however, haven't even once addressed him getting his heart crushed, having his neck snapped, being held in place with tk and then decapitated, or any of the other myriad of ways that vader can kill him. Everytime it's been mmentioned, you deflected to looking at vaders lack of durability and then lowballed his tk.

Lowball how? I cited an example from his last Darth Vader series.

You want to know how he can fight by having a vital organ crushed? The same way he always does.. Chi amping. He's been shot through the heart, and healed up. He's had his back broken, and got back up and fought (Without healing it. Later, a nurse confirmed his back was still broken.)

If he had trouble crushing a Rancor's reinforced throat, Danny can certainly protect himself with chi amping.

Originally posted by cdtm
Lowball how? I cited an example from his last Darth Vader series.

You want to know how he can fight by having a vital organ crushed? The same way he always does.. Chi amping. He's been shot through the heart, and healed up. He's had his back broken, and got back up and fought (Without healing it. Later, a nurse confirmed his back was still broken.)

If he had trouble crushing a Rancor's reinforced throat, Danny can certainly protect himself with chi amping.

There's a difference between getting shot in the heart and having his heart crushed. One does damage once allowed Danny to heal and the other is continuously stopping the flow of blood to/from the heart while also crushing it.

Again, you're lowballing. He's already demonstrated the telekinetic strength to lift two AT-ST's at the same time as well as hold an AT-AT in place while crushing it. You are literally looking at the bottom of the barrel and saying that it's his average. Hell for all we know, the throat of that rancor was reinforced with durasteel.

Going by the most current version is NOT low balling. Legends Darth Vader stories have no more relevence to current then pre crisis has to post crisis Superman (Although an argument can be made for this merged business, but that's another debate.)

Originally posted by cdtm
Going by the most current version is NOT low balling. Legends Darth Vader stories have no more relevence to current then pre crisis has to post crisis Superman (Although an argument can be made for this merged business, but that's another debate.)

Originally posted by cdtm
Vader can toss him around, maybe. But do any sort of real damage?

He's have to completely immobolize him and cut his head off, pretty much. And he couldn't even choke a Rancor because of a metal plate around its neck, much less use the force to throw it around. He ended up spearing it with a thrown lightsaber.

my guess? he chi amps, powers through and smacks vader, or maybe shuts off pain (thought i saw him do that....) and powers through somehow? which, given some of danny's durability feats, doesn't sound COMPLETELY crazy, but the starting distance is an issue. or he'd maybe say he unleashes a chi blast then, but not sure that would work. ground smash to stagger vader? possibly...? i'm just guessing at his responses they just don't seem that likely imo given the power of vader's tk.

Originally posted by Galan007
So lets say Vader touched his index finger to his thumb and crushed Danny's trachea, and/or heart... What happens next, iyo?

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm kind of confused too, since I just lied, and have no idea what I'm lying about.

Can a lie be a higball? Isn't it one or the other?

I cant complain though. Some good responses in among the silly ones.