Originally posted by Stoic
It's one of his abilities, why bellyache over it? Which brings up the question of whether or not Tyrant does the same to Superman?
Tyrant can't do the same thing to Superman. The plot device only existed between him and Galactus. He had to capture and use machines to drain others.
Originally posted by carver9
Nope. I agree with you... let's add Zod to the list of being far above top tier and being able to stomp Surfer, Thor and Hulk at the same time. Probe busting for the win.👆
Surfer has comparable feats of his own. Like soloing Annihilation fleets, when they were killing Firelord and Stardust..
Originally posted by cdtm
Surfer has comparable feats of his own. Like soloing Annihilation fleets, when they were killing Firelord and Stardust..
Thor fought against an angry Celestial and was withstand its attacks. Defeated Galactus... etc, etc... Hulk nearly exhausted the power of an abstract. Brushed off elites as if they were not there. Took out a being that started off as 2 times stronger than Thor and kept amping after that. Destroyed shielding that was capable of holding back a gang of Celestials.
I'm trying to get what you are trying to say here. I told Saint anyways that Zod would treat Thor, Hulk and Silver Surfer like fodder. OWAW Zod for the win.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Zod is Zod. No need to differentiate between versions. OWAW is the same as other Zods (assuming they're the red guy of course, not bearded Zod).
Or the gladiator looking guy from the Phantom Zone Krypton (Or whatever was going on there. Never could make heads or tails of that story.)
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah. Let's call him Russian Zod.As per Carver, he can take on and beat Hulk/Surfer/Thor at the same time.
Who does he fight on an even basis again? Using combat feats only?
That would help us in this thread.
Well, the Probes were team busters per your admission which puts them in trans tier level per hour admission. Zod casually took out two Probes, with ease. That puts him on the higher end of Skyfather. How does that sound?
Originally posted by carver9
Well, the Probes were team busters per your admission which puts them in trans tier level per hour admission. Zod casually took out two Probes, with ease. That puts him on the higher end of Skyfather. How does that sound?
Oh no, remember, I thought they were mid Heralds. I even drafted them in a mid herald tourney.
They lost to Superman, a High Herald. So that makes them Mid, no? Based on combat showings.
Russian Zod had several fights with Superman, and both looked roughly equal, overall.
If YOU think Russian Zod is high Skyfather, and he matches Superman (without sundip etc), well......you do the maths.
Trap card, activated.
Originally posted by carver9
Well, the Probes were team busters per your admission which puts them in trans tier level per hour admission. Zod casually took out two Probes, with ease. That puts him on the higher end of Skyfather. How does that sound?
By MY admission?
Originally posted by carver9
And Imperiex probes are being drafted even though they were shaking off damage from high heralds.
So that makes them, what, trans?
So if:
Originally posted by carver9
Zod casually took out two Probes, with ease. That puts him on the higher end of Skyfather.
is true, then:
Originally posted by carver9
No, Superman is more powerful. The Zod that's in the scan above, him and Superman was stalemating until an Imperiex probe interviened, crash landing on earth.
Carvermaths. Superman is abstract.
Originally posted by carver9
I've noticed what you are doing. You try to use my own debating style against me. I'm no longer responding in this thread about a Probe. This thread is about Superman.
Lol.
Superman...from which storyline?
Only combat feats allowed, right? So in this storyline, what/who did this Superman fight?