Immortal Hulk Vs. Mangog

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hulk always does well against groups.

Of the elite strongmen he's head of the class,

I don't agree with this.

I tend to think they hold back more(consciously/subconsciously) often than not when ganging on Hulk because they know he's still hero, but has issues controlling his rage.

Hyperion Vs Hulk

Just gonna leave this here, it's Hyperion taking out the Hulk in one punch. Hulk can likely be easily defeated by anyone on this strength level or above.

Originally posted by $on OF krypton
then superman bored leaves then sundips for 15000 years

By the way there is proof that rebirth superman sundipping would make more powerful.
Like with new52 superman all the sun does for post-flashpoint superman is make him recover from damage,not amp him or make him more powerful.

Originally posted by mace11

Remember he did that with one punch.

Next time, read the comic you post the scans from.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Next time, read the comic you post the scans from.

I know about of the fight.I still did not read the whole comic but i know what happen in the that fight.
In the end when hyperion got sunlight he recovered and knock hulk out and hulk turn back to banner.

I saw it here plus i read about it in other places.

Hyperion vs The Hulk - YouTube

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I can't post any links yet and you can't edit anything after 15 minutes.

I read somewhere that Hickman was asked about Abyss, and he said she wasn't a telepath.

Nonetheless, her control over Hulk was also a factor, mace11.

For example Current hyperion as no problem knocking out the hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I read somewhere that Hickman was asked about Abyss, and he said she wasn't a telepath.

Nonetheless, her control over Hulk was also a factor, mace11.

I know he was being controlled,but the results would have been the same.
Hyperion would still beat the hulk,wwh and this immortal hulk.

Originally posted by mace11
I still did not read the whole comic

Then what are you doing here? Intentionally spreading misinformation?

Originally posted by mace11
I know he was being controlled,but the results would have been the same.
Hyperion would still beat the hulk,wwh and this immortal hulk.

Meh, mind-controlled fights are always iffy. I personally don't count them.

For example, once Abyss' control was gone, who's to say Hulk wouldn't have reverted to Banner anyway? As he was being Hulked out to fight his friends.

Yea i was thinking about that, she appears weaker outside thor specific books...like when she got wrecked by vision etc

This is from another thread or forum.

Damage vs Immortal Hulk

@dftatm said:

They seem do be writing hulk at a really hugh lvl, but that might be a first appearance in a while kind of thing. And he might be brought down later. So hulk for now.

Or the others that he fought would be brought back up like jane in her book.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Then what are you doing here? Intentionally spreading misinformation?

It's misinformation that hulk lost that fight?
I don't need to read the whole comic to get the idea what happen in that fight and you could get the summary of that issue some place else.

The point is at the end hulk lost the fight just like he lost the fight fighting sun god/zoran.
Do i need to read the whole comic for why hulk lost the fight to sun god too?
No and i saw the whole fight.

No need to read the whole comic for that either to say hulk lost that fight.

It's no different when you see clip of man of steel and someone else did not see the movie yet and see the clips of superman vs zod you clearly still see zod lost at the end.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Meh, mind-controlled fights are always iffy. I personally don't count them.

I personally count it.
Hyperion is more powerful then hulk anyway.
Hulk would still lost in fair fight.

By the way if you study the fight the immortal hulk had with avengers carefully,it looks they were trying to hold him back at the end not go all out and fight him,of course he is stronger then jane thor and the others fighting him but they were trying to hold him back at the end.They were not punching him etc.. at the end.

Based on? It wasn't a fight, and based on the rules of this forum, certainly not indicative of them fighting at full capacity.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Based on? It wasn't a fight, and based on the rules of this forum, certainly not indicative of them fighting at full capacity.

What fight you talking about now?my recent post immortal hulk vs the current avengers?
or
Hulk vs hyperion and sungod?
For the hyperion and sungod fight it look like fighting to me.

Anyway that's all i have to say.
I think i will move on.
Bye.

Originally posted by mace11
What fight you talking about now?my recent post immortal hulk vs the current avengers?

or hulk vs hyperion and sungod?
For hyperion and sungod fight it look like fighting to me.

Hype vs Hulk.
It's a fight, but not one which applies to this forum, as Hulk wasn't at full capacity.

Mind control is always iffy. Especially with characters like the Hulk, whose powers are dependent on their mind. He didn't want to fight Hype, but it was Abyss who was making him fight. Doesn't mean he was giving it his all.

And thus, dodgy to rely on as proof Hype can beat Hulk.

Bye.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The gap in time between the two character/writer portrayals would be the gap between the last issue of Avengers AI and the first issue of Vision. That would be a year and a half. That’s not a a long time.

not an amp

Ok regarding the Vision thing.
First off that instance was written by Tom King, the same guy who just recently wrote Batman knocking out Superman just by whistling and Catwoman 1-shotting 3 Flash characters.
So yea he either doesn't give a damn about power levels or just doesn't understand them which is why nobody takes Vision busting a team of heroes seriously.
This has nothing to do with current Hulk overpowering both Jane and Hercules just by flexing his muscles, because according to the 3 writers responsible for that scene Hulk is meant to be this strong and can defeat a team of powerhouses.
With that said he shouldn't be able to beat Mangog, Mangog feeds on hate and current Hulk is full of it, on top of that he has trashed Thor in the past far worse than Hulk ever has. Mangog should be a being more powerful than Hulk.

Also Hyperion knocking out Hulk never happened as confirmed by the writer, it was Abyss losing control over him what reverted him back to Banner

I can post the link to anyone that is interested in writer confirming this.

Anyone who has a brain already knows that but go ahead.

Originally posted by mace11
By the way if you study the fight the immortal hulk had with avengers carefully,it looks they were trying to hold him back at the end not go all out and fight him,of course he is stronger then jane thor and the others fighting him but they were trying to hold him back at the end.They were not punching him etc.. at the end.

Hercules hurt his hand after his first punch, putting to bed the "holding back" nonsense. There were comments about how every blow Thor and Herc were dishing out resembled thunderclaps, don't get it twisted they were trying real hard to put Hulk down. They failed individually so Jane suggested attacking together. IMO it's pretty obvious there were parts of this fight that happened off-panel, the dialogue implies as much, but ultimately I think the point was Jane Thor and Hercules (and Rogue) couldn't stop Hulk no matter what tactic they tried.