Azrael vs Iron Fist

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Azrael vs Iron Fist

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Standard equipment fight on the streets of Hell's Kitchen.

Probably IF 6/10. IF really needs to go all out to win, though.

Can't wait for JPV to go cosmic. He's getting a new suit, too. Darkseid and Jean Paul Valley on the same team?

Havent seen JPV since waaaay back in the 90s, didnt even know he was still around.

But yeah, IF after a good fight.

JPV has some good feats. He is very capable of at least getting a split here.

I think so, too. JPV was able to stand up against Cassandra and Batwoman at the same time. Batman said that he was unlikely to beat Cassandra.

Unlikely or likely?

Originally posted by riv6672
Unlikely or likely?

If he's thinking of the scene I'm thinking of, Batman and Cass had a little "heart to heart" where they substituted fighting for words. It was in no way a serious fight.

Afterwards, Oracle asked him what would happen if they fought for real, and Batman responds matter of factly: "I'd lose".

There's a scan floating around somewhere of the scene..

Okay, that clears things up for me. 👆

JPV gets fisted

Originally posted by cdtm
If he's thinking of the scene I'm thinking of, Batman and Cass had a little "heart to heart" where they substituted fighting for words. It was in no way a serious fight.

Afterwards, Oracle asked him what would happen if they fought for real, and Batman responds matter of factly: "I'd lose".

There's a scan floating around somewhere of the scene..

Different scene. I'm talking about the League of Shadows arc. Batman didn't feel so confident about facing off against Cassandra.

Later, Batman also got owned by Lady Shiva.

Originally posted by riv6672
Havent seen JPV since waaaay back in the 90s, didnt even know he was still around.

But yeah, IF after a good fight.

If Zack is actually edging out the Marvel Guy, it probably isn't a very close fight. 😛

The Iron Fist

Cue "it's feats" for Azrael, "PIS" for Danny usual double standards.

Because Iron Fist hasn't been racking up impressive feats since the 1970's.

Originally posted by cdtm
If Zack is actually edging out the Marvel Guy, it probably isn't a very close fight.

👆

Originally posted by cdtm
If Zack is actually edging out the Marvel Guy, it probably isn't a very close fight. 😛

The way JPV is being treated lately? Yeah, it would be one hell of a matchup. His swords can make it a one-shot, if they actually connect. JPV is >>> Cassandra Cain/Batman.

If we use Lane, I'd see Michael winning. Suit of Sorrows would be too much.

Iron Fist is >>> Batman and Cassandra Cain, too.

The ability to move as fast as Daredevil, and hit as hard as Thing is pretty underrated. I mean, a Cap vs Danny match should look like this:

Cap: *Throws punch*

Danny: *Throws punch at same time*

Danny wins.

You can't really attack and evade at the same time, is my point. It's like Ryu's Dragon Punch in Street Fighter: It has priority over EVERYTHING that isn't adamantium claws.

And the thing is, counter punching is something he's done in canon.

It's not just something I'm making up, he's used the Iron Fist to blast right through lesser attacks, and even used it to defend against sword strikes and such.

It's called "counter punching". Any Martial Artist on Shang Chi's level with such an attack would be unbeatable, if they fought defensively. It would be like trying to fight someone who, at a single touch, can suck out your soul. Like Stormbringer, from Michael Moorecocks Elric saga.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
The way JPV is being treated lately? Yeah, it would be one hell of a matchup. His swords can make it a one-shot, if they actually connect. JPV is >>> Cassandra Cain/Batman.

If we use Lane, I'd see Michael winning. Suit of Sorrows would be too much.

Yea but Danny is >>> Cassandra Cain/Batman.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Yea but Danny is >>> Cassandra Cain/Batman.

Batgod would beat any street. 😛

Originally posted by cdtm
Iron Fist is >>> Batman and Cassandra Cain, too.

The ability to move as fast as Daredevil, and hit as hard as Thing is pretty underrated. I mean, a Cap vs Danny match should look like this:

Cap: *Throws punch*

Danny: *Throws punch at same time*

Danny wins.

You can't really attack and evade at the same time, is my point. It's like Ryu's Dragon Punch in Street Fighter: It has priority over EVERYTHING that isn't adamantium claws.

And the thing is, counter punching is something he's done in canon.

It's not just something I'm making up, he's used the Iron Fist to blast right through lesser attacks, and even used it to defend against sword strikes and such.

It's called "counter punching". Any Martial Artist on Shang Chi's level with such an attack would be unbeatable, if they fought defensively. It would be like trying to fight someone who, at a single touch, can suck out your soul. Like Stormbringer, from Michael Moorecocks Elric saga.

Az's swords can basically absorb energy. I wouldn't be surprised if they can cancel out his chi attacks.

Maybe it could.

Danny's fought against swords that can beat him. As far back as Marvel Premier, in fact, where he first appeared.

He was skilled enough to catch the sword on the flat side, with one hand, mid swing. No chi protection.