Originally posted by Philosophía
Disrupting his magnetic fields with heat was what took his...magnetic fields down.You can actually see Magneto saying "the heat...disrupting...magnetic fields..." in the scan where his...magnetic fields...are...being hit with heat.
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...if Magneto saying it wasn't enough..
That's why she said "weakened his magnetism, broke through his strongest force fields".
Originally posted by abhilegendHis blast generated heat, which weakened the magnetic shield, allowing the blast to overcome it and hit Magneto.
Yes, the heat disrupted the magnetic field but that was accompanied with Havok blasting through his strongest force fields.That's why she said "weakened his magnetism, broke through his strongest force fields".
It's not a matter of force, but of a specific property [heat] weakening them.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. Pretty much everyone broke through his constructs in his own series.He has one or two high end feats but nothing a GL can't replicate.
Nothing a GL couldn't replicate, agreed. But I do disagree if we talk about, say, median showing (average is so passe). GL shields are much bigger plot devices due to how many showings of them exist, so the variance is a lot wilder. It's also a bit lopsided to point to only his book (where, yes, there was good and bad) but ignore the many team-up or big event showings he had that were excellent.
Originally posted by Philosophía
His blast generated heat, which weakened the magnetic shield, allowing the blast to overcome it and hit Magneto.It's not a matter of force, but of a specific property [heat] weakening them.
Originally posted by Digi
Nothing a GL couldn't replicate, agreed. But I do disagree if we talk about, say, median showing (average is so passe). GL shields are much bigger plot devices due to how many showings of them exist, so the variance is a lot wilder. It's also a bit lopsided to point to only his book (where, yes, there was good and bad) but ignore the many team-up or big event showings he had that were excellent.
He got a good showing in Infinity War tie in. But that's it.
Originally posted by abhilegendThe heat disrupted the magnetic field, allowing it to be breached.
Except it was. The force of Havok blasts punched through his shields as shown.
If Batman punches Superman with a kryptonite ring, we don't treat the punch and the kryptonite as separate things, and say Batman's punch damaged Superman.
Originally posted by Philosophía
The heat disrupted the magnetic field, allowing it to be breached.If Batman punches Superman with a kryptonite ring, we don't treat the punch and the kryptonite as separate things, and say Batman's punch damaged Superman.
It's not kryptonite where a particular radiation weakens Superman which has nothing to do with his power.
And its not like Magneto wilts anytime there is any heat.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was the heat of the blasts which while blasting through the fields, broke through it.It's not kryptonite where a particular radiation weakens Superman which has nothing to do with his power.
And its not like Magneto wilts anytime there is any heat.
The heat disrupted the shields, allowing the attack to pass through them.
Heat and magnets don't get along. Cold does. It's why Magneto is amped by cold. It's why heat, specifically said by Magneto, disrupted his shields.
...so it's quite the kryptonite.
Yes, Magneto has withstood heat based attacks before, so Havok with no-mental blocks is quite impressive!
Originally posted by Digi
Lol. "A" good showing. Yes, just the one.
Originally posted by Philosophía
The heat disrupted the shields, allowing the attack to pass through them.Heat and magnets don't get along. Cold does. It's why Magneto is amped by cold. It's why heat, specifically said by Magneto, disrupted his shields.
...so it's quite the kryptonite.Yes, Magneto has withstood heat based attacks before, so Havok with no-mental blocks is quite impressive!
At least the myth of unbreakable shields is over.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm curious as to what you think are some of his better feats.
The Galactus feat gets thrown around a lot, and imo remains valid to point to. Big G has taken a hit in comics compared to his zenith, but was still an abstract-level force at that point.
I was always impressed with how he no-sold a giant group including Hercules and Thor/Mjolnir who were simultaneously attacking one of his bubble shields in one of the cosmic arcs. He's held off nuclear blasts as well, and multitasked literally hundreds of constructs throughout the universe. I could dig a bit more, but my point stands. It could be that I'm forgetting more low showings than I should, and I never disagreed that good GLs could replicate his feats. I just have more memories of GL shields being swiss cheese due to the vast number of them in existence.
Originally posted by DigiHint: Almost everytime Galactus has ever encountered a "herald level" foe, he has been hungry. The only times I can recall otherwise off the top of my head are the Odin fight, and the Scrier/Other fight where Thor accomplished nothing. It's the ultimate excuse, but still important.
The Galactus feat gets thrown around a lot, and imo remains valid to point to. Big G has taken a hit in comics compared to his zenith, but was still an abstract-level force at that point.
The Quasar fight is no exception. Mind you he wasn't starving at the time, he just needed to feed.
Originally posted by Digi
The Galactus feat gets thrown around a lot, and imo remains valid to point to. Big G has taken a hit in comics compared to his zenith, but was still an abstract-level force at that point.I was always impressed with how he no-sold a giant group including Hercules and Thor/Mjolnir who were simultaneously attacking one of his bubble shields in one of the cosmic arcs. He's held off nuclear blasts as well, and multitasked literally hundreds of constructs throughout the universe. I could dig a bit more, but my point stands. It could be that I'm forgetting more low showings than I should, and I never disagreed that good GLs could replicate his feats. I just have more memories of GL shields being swiss cheese due to the vast number of them in existence.
Yeah, that's the one good feat I was remembering. But then even Kilowog has stopped pretty much every hero on earth in a force field and Rond Vidar took on entire LOSV and SBP at once.
Quasar is good. A GL on his day is another thing altogether though.
Originally posted by abhilegendSo he let himself get stabbed by psylocke to get saved by exodus? He’s been depowered which is why he’s been using mgh for the last few years and nowhere close to where he used to be. Also he’s been depowered since post avx and I read the last uncanny X-men run and he was barely able to toss semis. You obviously don’t know what your talking about
Yes, the heat disrupted the magnetic field but that was accompanied with Havok blasting through his strongest force fields.That's why she said "weakened his magnetism, broke through his strongest force fields".
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
So he let himself get stabbed by psylocke to get saved by exodus? He’s been depowered which is why he’s been using mgh for the last few years and nowhere close to where he used to be. Also he’s been depowered since post avx and I read the last uncanny X-men run and he was barely able to toss semis. You obviously don’t know what your talking about
Post AvX he was Depowered for a slight bit but it was revealed as due to Dark Beasts nano sentinels and ever since then he is at full power except for a brief period under his own series.
This isn't comicvine kid.
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There you go. Uncanny X men 22 (2013).
Originally posted by abhilegend
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Wprg2XcolkM/VoOIcQk9x-I/AAAAAAAAGvw/QoVdX49Swo0/s1600-Ic42/RCO014.jpgThere you go. Uncanny X men 22 (2013).
