Inspired: Who has the strongest shield power?

Started by Philosophía7 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh right, I messed it up with X Men Gold team.

Fair enough.

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He's the one who explicitly said and showed that Magneto is not at full power and is in the process of healing.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Scans of this broken power due to mental issues? Or better issue number?

Then why would Havok say his powers were enhanced by MGH. Last time it was shown as corrected by Sugar Man's power amplifiers and Magneto channeled far more power than he ever had.

Sure.

Psychosomatic:

Confirmed by Red Skull with Xavier's powers that he can use TP to flip them right back on [guess who the writers is here? Cullen Bunn]:

His mind is currently being healed by Xorn in a long process by going through all the trauma [guess, again, who the writer is here? Cullen Bunn. From the same series the Havok scans are from]:

Magneto can use MGH and power-amplifiers, yes. He did so repeatedly. But the power he can use in his normal state is severely limited.

Again:
http://cullenbunn.tumblr.com/post/164280081354/hello-dear-mrbunn-is-magnetos-power-still

Hello dear Mr.Bunn, is Magneto's power still damaged because of his contact with Phoenix force in your Uncanny X-Men and X-Men Blue? Because I saw Magneto going to Xorn for cure and said 'Death is still haunting me' or something like this when he failed to lift a van

Bunn: Yes, Magneto's powers are still damaged. He's not as powerful as he once was. But Magneto doesn't need to be all-powerful to be very dangerous.

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Magneto/Issue-19?id=14409
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Magneto/Issue-20?id=14413

Read yourself.

Uncanny X-Men is 2016. These are 2014, currently the comics disagree, how about you go read the new runs?

Originally posted by Philosophía
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He's the one who explicitly said and showed that Magneto is not at full power and is in the process of healing.

Sure.

Psychosomatic:

Confirmed by Red Skull with Xavier's powers that he can use TP to flip them right back on [guess who the writers is here? Cullen Bunn]:

His mind is currently being healed by Xorn in a long process by going through all the trauma [guess, again, who the writer is here? Cullen Bunn. From the same series the Havok scans are from]:

Magneto can use MGH and power-amplifiers, yes. He did so repeatedly. But the power he can use in his normal state is severely limited.

Again:
http://cullenbunn.tumblr.com/post/164280081354/hello-dear-mrbunn-is-magnetos-power-still


Eh, what? The first scene is from Uncanny X Men 18 under Bendis who clarified that the Phoenix five and Magneto were infected by nano sentinels.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-2013/Issue-16?id=11038&quality=

Later two issues/scans are interesting in setting example but first is from Original Sin and Magneto got at full power and more under Bunn by Sugar Man's tech.

Xorn scene does not even mentions power. In fact I can't find even one scene in the current X Men Blue run which mentioned that Magneto is weakened.

Need more than that to conclude that Magneto is Depowered since last seven years.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Uncanny X-Men is 2016. These are 2014, currently the comics disagree, how about you go read the new runs?

Where is Magneto shown to be Depowered in Uncanny X men?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Eh, what? The first scene is from Uncanny X Men 18 under Bendis who clarified that the Phoenix five and Magneto were infected by nano sentinels.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-2013/Issue-16?id=11038&quality=

Later two issues/scans are interesting in setting example but first is from Original Sin and Magneto got at full power and more under Bunn by Sugar Man's tech.

Xorn scene does not even mentions power. In fact I can't find even one scene in the current X Men Blue run which mentioned that Magneto is weakened.

Need more than that to conclude that Magneto is Depowered since last seven years.

He blatantly gave you the writer stating Magneto's power is still damaged in his current x-men uncanny series, are you trolling

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
He blatantly gave you the writer stating Magneto's power is still damaged in his current x-men uncanny series, are you trolling

Yes, he did. It's not what's shown in the comic though and what he is trying to say happened to Magneto.

Magneto's powers were not broken due to Phoenix Force to begin with, it was due to nano sentinels infecting him.

Re: Inspired: Who has the strongest shield power?

Originally posted by gauntlet o doom
Inspired by the Magneto and Invisible Woman thread. Who amongst the following characters can create the most powerful forcefield? For instance, if Class 100 bricks start to pummel the force-field, whose would be the most difficult to break? And, if a Galactus-level being fired a cosmic blast at them, who has the greatest chance of surviving based solely on their shield/force-field/construct?

Magneto
Polaris
Invisible Woman
Jean Grey (not Phoenix)
Green Lantern
Quasar
Dr Doom

*No other powers allowed, only shields/forcefields/shield-type constructs are being used. Not including the Juggernaut as it'd probably trump all the above.

Well,using a normal magneto,not a depowered one

For class 100 bricks, he takes that cake

For a Galactus-being level blast
If it's a celestial, then sue storm has the highest chance of survival, if just an abstract, then GLs are most likely going by their feats

Originally posted by Genii96
Well,using a normal magneto,not a depowered one

For class 100 bricks, he takes that cake

For a Galactus-being level blast
If it's a celestial, then sue storm has the highest chance of survival, if just an abstract, then GLs are most likely going by their feats


What class 100 bricks has Magneto done better than a GL?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, he did. It's not what's shown in the comic though and what he is trying to say happened to Magneto.

Magneto's powers were not broken due to Phoenix Force to begin with, it was due to nano sentinels infecting him.

Uncanny X-men 2016 run he was using MGH to supplement his power and it was mentioned a few times by Psylocke.

First issue after using his powers for a short time pushed himself to far.

https://imgur.com/a/YlkzC

Fighting the Dark Riders using his power again weakens him issue #5.

https://imgur.com/a/rCCKW

Going to Xorn for healing issue #6

https://imgur.com/a/8NSiw

Psylocke saying Magneto's used the stuff before...

https://imgur.com/a/jvrJO

I'd say it's pretty clear during the run he was depowered. There's nothing to suggest in current books he's gone even close to his former levels either. You should check yourself before calling someone a noobie

Magneto was shown weakened in the very first issueof the 2016 uncanny xmen issue,not sure where the argument that he wasn't comes from

Originally posted by abhilegend
Eh, what? The first scene is from Uncanny X Men 18 under Bendis who clarified that the Phoenix five and Magneto were infected by nano sentinels.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-2013/Issue-16?id=11038&quality=

Later two issues/scans are interesting in setting example but first is from Original Sin and Magneto got at full power and more under Bunn by Sugar Man's tech.

Xorn scene does not even mentions power. In fact I can't find even one scene in the current X Men Blue run which mentioned that Magneto is weakened.

Need more than that to conclude that Magneto is Depowered since last seven years.

The first scene isn't from Uncanny X-Men 18, it's from #16. It's a supposition from Uncanny Avengers, that is confirmed by Red Skull with Xavier's telepathy in Magneto's own series, that Magneto's depowerment is psychological in nature, and not physical. The confirmation in Magneto's series takes place long AFTER Uncanny X-Men #22, where the nano-sentinels are revealed to have affected Cyclops and the rest, and Magneto remains depowered after.

You're literally ignoring on panel evidence, or simply have no clue of the chronology. Stop.

Magneto used Sugar Man's tech (along with multiple other means of amping himself) exactly because his 'normal' power was not at its best, and he needed all he could in order to repel the Incursion Earth. His normal state was not healed at any point, and the problems carried on to the next series with Magneto that Cullen wrote.

To make it crystal clear, in order:
AvX happens
Magneto is depowered
Cyclops and the rest are healed from nano-sentinels
Magneto is still depowered. It is clearly stated that it's a psychological block, by an actual telepath.
He uses external devices/drugs to amp himself against the Incursion [Secret Wars]
He dies
He is reborn with the Universe
Magneto is still depowered
Magneto goes to Xorn to being his healing process
The writer [of the Magneto series, the Uncanny X-Men recent series AND X-Men Blue] FLAT-OUT says that Magneto is depowered.

No sign of Magneto being depowered? You'd have to read the comics for that, abhi. You'd see for example that the link I posted where the writer of the series confirms that Magneto is currently depowered, the one that asks the question even puts a hint there, for those who don't read the comics, on where to look.

Hello dear Mr.Bunn, is Magneto's power still damaged because of his contact with Phoenix force in your Uncanny X-Men and X-Men Blue? Because I saw Magneto going to Xorn for cure and said 'Death is still haunting me' or something like this when he failed to lift a van

Bunn: Yes, Magneto's powers are still damaged. He's not as powerful as he once was. But Magneto doesn't need to be all-powerful to be very dangerous.

So he tells you:
a). to look in Uncanny X-Men [where Cullen Bunn is also the writer, HOW INTERESTING] [i.e. what was basically renamed/relaunched as X-Men: Blue, also written by Cullen Bunn]
b). to look for a scene with a van.
c). he says that deaths still haunt him [OH, IS IT PSYCHOLOGICAL? How weird!]

Hmm..

What could it be?!

His powers fail him again, later, in this same series.
As a consequence, in literally the next issue where his powers fail him again, he goes to Xorn, and starts the extended healing process.

I've caught you so many times being clueless about Magneto, that this is my last post I'll ever have with you on this character. This is close to talking with carver about Superman. So feel free to....wait for his low showings, then scream about them. Actually, nevermind. This is exactly like carver and Superman.

As a last word of advice on this topic: don't go with this positions anywhere else. Your hate of the character is transparent, but it's not worth getting your shit pushed in. If somebody who actually hates you catches you with it, you're going to have a bad time.

Have a great one 🙂

^This: " It's a supposition from Uncanny Avengers" should be Uncanny X-Men.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Uncanny X-men 2016 run he was using MGH to supplement his power and it was mentioned a few times by Psylocke.

First issue after using his powers for a short time pushed himself to far.

https://imgur.com/a/YlkzC

Fighting the Dark Riders using his power again weakens him issue #5.

https://imgur.com/a/rCCKW

Going to Xorn for healing issue #6

https://imgur.com/a/8NSiw

Psylocke saying Magneto's used the stuff before...

https://imgur.com/a/jvrJO

I'd say it's pretty clear during the run he was depowered. There's nothing to suggest in current books he's gone even close to his former levels either. You should check yourself before calling someone a noobie

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I didn't read your reply, so I wasted time uploading scans.

i don't get his deal with mags. i mean, he's literally been wrong, and proven wrong...a LOT with regards to mags. odd character to feel so strongly against. /shrug

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Uncanny X-men 2016 run he was using MGH to supplement his power and it was mentioned a few times by Psylocke.

First issue after using his powers for a short time pushed himself to far.

https://imgur.com/a/YlkzC

Fighting the Dark Riders using his power again weakens him issue #5.

https://imgur.com/a/rCCKW

Going to Xorn for healing issue #6

https://imgur.com/a/8NSiw

Psylocke saying Magneto's used the stuff before...

https://imgur.com/a/jvrJO

I'd say it's pretty clear during the run he was depowered. There's nothing to suggest in current books he's gone even close to his former levels either. You should check yourself before calling someone a noobie


I am aware of these instances, nowhere are they shown that Magneto is weakened. He gets overtaxed by use of his powers.

Also Psylocke says he has used this in the past. Yes, he has. But not in that volume.

The first scene isn't from Uncanny X-Men 18, it's from #16. It's a supposition from Uncanny Avengers, that is confirmed by Red Skull with Xavier's telepathy in Magneto's own series, that Magneto's depowerment is psychological in nature, and not physical.

Based on a comment by Mystique and Red Skull, eh?

But sure, Magneto has been depowered for seven years because he is suffering from a mental block. That's something at least.

The confirmation in Magneto's series takes place long AFTER Uncanny X-Men #22, where the nano-sentinels are revealed to have affected Cyclops and the rest, and Magneto remains depowered after.

Because Magneto wasn't cured of them. Not at that time at least.

You're literally ignoring on panel evidence, or simply have no clue of the chronology. Stop.
Magneto used Sugar Man's tech (along with multiple other means of amping himself) exactly because his 'normal' power was not at its best, and he needed all he could in order to repel the Incursion Earth. His normal state was not healed at any point, and the problems carried on to the next series with Magneto that Cullen wrote.

You know that is also written by Cullen Bunn and there was literally no mention of a psychic block stopping him from using full power?

To make it crystal clear, in order:
AvX happens
Magneto is depowered
Cyclops and the rest are healed from nano-sentinels
Magneto is still depowered. It is clearly stated that it's a psychological block, by an actual telepath.

Whoa, Red Skull did not say that.

He uses external devices/drugs to amp himself against the Incursion [Secret Wars]

He used amplifiers AFTER he was at far more power than he was ever. [quote]

He dies
He is reborn with the Universe
Magneto is still depowered
Magneto goes to Xorn to being his healing process

That was two years ago in Uncanny X Men 6. Are you saying Magneto hasn't been healed since then?

The writer [of the Magneto series, the Uncanny X-Men recent series AND X-Men Blue] FLAT-OUT says that Magneto is depowered.

In 2017, from something which was never the factor in his Depowered state to begin with.

No sign of Magneto being depowered? You'd have to read the comics for that, abhi. You'd see for example that the link I posted where the writer of the series confirms that Magneto is currently depowered, the one that asks the question even puts a hint there, for those who don't read the comics, on where to look.

Right, because you're the only one who reads this.


So he tells you:
a). to look in Uncanny X-Men [where Cullen Bunn is also the writer, HOW INTERESTING] [i.e. what was basically renamed/relaunched as X-Men: Blue, also written by Cullen Bunn]
b). to look for a scene with a van.
c). he says that deaths still haunt him [OH, IS IT PSYCHOLOGICAL? How weird!]

Right, because Magneto has never been overtaxed by exerting his power.

No sir, never has been.

Hmm..
What could it be?!
His powers fail him again, later, in this same series.


They didn't fail him, he overtaxed himself.

As a consequence, in literally the next issue where his powers fail him again, he goes to Xorn, and starts the extended healing process.

That healing "process" was done in the very same issue and the issue of his power wasn't even brought up.

You're making something which is not even there.

I've caught you so many times being clueless about Magneto, that this is my last post I'll ever have with you on this character. This is close to talking with carver about Superman. So feel free to....wait for his low showings, then scream about them. Actually, nevermind. This is exactly like carver and Superman.

Uh-huh. Don't take the sanctimonious tone with me. I'm not some newbie who gets scared easily.

As a last word of advice on this topic: don't go with this positions anywhere else. Your hate of the character is transparent, but it's not worth getting your shit pushed in. If somebody who actually hates you catches you with it, you're going to have a bad time.
Have a great one

Right, now I hate magneto.

That's a good one if I ever saw one.

Have a good day.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, now I hate magneto.

To be fair, you do kinda give off that impression.

I must hate every character who I ever argued against then.

Originally posted by leonidas
i don't get his deal with mags. i mean, he's literally been wrong, and proven wrong...a LOT with regards to mags. odd character to feel so strongly against. /shrug
Twist: he likes the character but doesn't know anything about him, so he just says the stupidest things he can think of to be corrected and learn!

Abhi tryin to make anyone look bad who isn't Superman.....

Originally posted by abhilegend
I am aware of these instances, nowhere are they shown that Magneto is weakened. He gets overtaxed by use of his powers.

Also Psylocke says he has used this in the past. Yes, he has. But not in that volume.

Overtaxed barely using his powers is definitely being weakened