Kids and Ehitler
We always think about what kind of planet we are leaving for the kids, but what about what kind of kids we are leaving for the planet?
Online it appears more and more they are selfish, self-orientated, far-right individuals with little understanding and empathy of other cultures, races and individuals. They seem to embrace neo-fascism in a way the Hitler youth would be proud of.
Where have these children come from? Is the spectre of the past so long ago?
Originally posted by Digi
Is this serious? Or just trolling? Generalizations and /shakefisting at the next generation are boring and cliche. Data or gtfo with this.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/31/far-right-alt-right-white-supremacists-rise-online
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/alt-right-national-socialist-movement-white-supremacy.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40915356
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/14/opinion/sunday/milo-yiannopoulos-white-nationalism.html
It's everywhere Digi.
Youths are usually the ones to instigate fanatical movements. The internet is full of far-left anarchist and communist groups too (esp. on Facebook and the like), who spout blinkered nonsense on par with some of the alt-right groups (although they're usually more well spoken / typed, w/e). Antifa utilises the internet heavily for their 'recruitment', as it were.
Young people are often looking for direction and a way to fit in, so extremist groups are easy go-tos because those groups will take them in regardless, due to their need for constant new members to increase their presence, and, as an end goal, power.
Young people can also often be very easily led, and if a young, straight white male feels angry at the world, it's all too easy to blame all 'Others' (in the Edward Said sense of the word) and thus join forces with more young, straight white males to lash out against those they perceive as negatively influencing their quality of life.
In regards to the specific 'E-Hitler' ideal, every side is searching for their Führer. Everyone wants a strong leader to get behind, someone who will tell them the solution to their problem, someone who will rescind their need to make complex decisions by themselves and allow them to be a cog in a machine, one where they feel at home. That's basically a core element of politics and the tribal mentality that drives much of culture at large.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Just because you might not like the topic or content, it doesn't mean it's trolling. Kids have always been the most vulnerable to any stupid idea.
I didn't say the topic was bad, I suggested the idea behind the topic was bad. I agree social media are the new parents and they play a role in developing kids, that doesn't diminish the fact which as a global society we are more progressive in first world countries then even a decade ago.
Originally posted by snowdragonI would argue that we were more progressive, I think the past two years have shown a decline in forward momentum to be replaced with something else.
I didn't say the topic was bad, I suggested the idea behind the topic was bad. I agree social media are the new parents and they play a role in developing kids, that doesn't diminish the fact which as a global society we are more progressive in first world countries.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
I would argue that we were more progressive, I think the past two years have shown a decline in forward momentum to be replaced with something else.
I believe the introduction of Trump has allowed more fringe behaviors to become mainstream but I don't believe that is the dominant system of beliefs in the USA at least.
Originally posted by snowdragonNot dominant, no but rising, particularly amongst the youth who are often from areas where they do not even come in contact with the people they are being taught to hate. Fear of the different is easy to manipulate especially online.
I believe the introduction of Trump has allowed more fringe behaviors to become mainstream but I don't believe that is the dominant system of beliefs in the USA at least.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Not all I have to say, however, the easiest side to choose is right or wrong and when you are talking about the Far right it is always wrong.
Are you kidding? Communism as a form of govt had the highest death count after WWII. I'm thinking the extreme left and right are a problem and it isn't owned by one side.
Originally posted by snowdragonWe are not talking about the extreme left, however, a lot of "communists" bravely died stopping Hitler who they had been allied with originally. The truth about Russia as the Soviet Union was it stopped being Communist and became a dictatorship when Stalin took over.
Are you kidding? Communism as a form of govt had the highest death count after WWII. I'm thinking the extreme left and right are a problem and it isn't owned by one side.
Communism has always been replaced by dictatorship when implemented. The Reich remained Fascist on the other hand.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
We are not talking about the extreme left, however, a lot of "communists" bravely died stopping Hitler who they had been allied with originally. The truth about Russia as the Soviet Union was it stopped being Communist and became a dictatorship when Stalin took over.Communism has always been replaced by dictatorship when implemented. The Reich remained Fascist on the other hand.
Which is why I specifically used it in reference to the govt. Also, you do realize that fascism is left, specifically taking control of the govt and removing rights of its citizens.
Left is force, right is less force.