Ahsoka Tano vs. Quinlan Vos (Canon)

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Ahsoka Tano vs. Quinlan Vos

Ahsoka Tano vs. Quinlan Vos (Canon)

Canon only, who wins?

Quinlan's only chance is if he goes full berserker-rage and taps the dark side(ala Dark Disciple.)

Sans that, Ahsoka wins solidly. 🙁

Hard to tell tbh. Both use somewhat similar forms; Vos defeating Dooku is somewhat circumstantial, but Ahsoka losing to Vader is too.

Hmmm...

I'm going to say because Vos is a man he has more upper-body strength and endurance than Tano. He'll wear her down like Vader 🙂 .

Originally posted by Kurk
but Ahsoka losing to Vader is too.

How was that circumstantial?

It wasnt. He KOd her once with TK. And in the final season we see only a Time Paradox saved her life in a pure Saber clash.

As for this, wont be much different to Vos vs Maul. The 3 of them are in the same league.

Unfortunately, canon Vos is retardedly strong so he wins.

Vos, solidly. DD Vos made a fool out of Grievous and Asajj, both opponents that Ahsoka couldn't take. He also was a able to contend with, and circumstantially defeat, Count Dooku. Way more impressive than taking out a pair of mook Inquisitors or losing to Darth Vader.

Only way I see her having a chance is if morals are on and Vos isn't tapping into the Dark Side.

Rebels Ahsoka couldnt take Canon Grievous? Ha!

FYI Those nook Inquisitors are all former Jedi.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It wasnt. He KOd her once with TK. And in the final season we see only a Time Paradox saved her life in a pure Saber clash.

As for this, wont be much different to Vos vs Maul. The 3 of them are in the same league.

Not to say she was going to win (far from it), but her jamming her lightsabers into the ground and leaving herself open isn't exactly a pure saber clash. She gambled on it working quick enough and would have lost. She would have either "won" (in reality taken both of them) or lost due to that move, but it really had nothing to do with a saber fight in why she was going to be swiped. Her losing led up to it, but the moment itself wasn't pure saber skill.

It also kind of makes no sense since if she were taking both of them down, why not avoid Vader until the temple blows?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
It also kind of makes no sense since if she were taking both of them down, why not avoid Vader until the temple blows?
Ahsoka believed that fighting/killing Vader one-on-one was essentially her way of avenging her former master.

Vader: "Anakin Skywalker was weak. I destroyed him."
Ahsoka: "Then I will avenge his death!"

She could have just danced around the entire time or whathaveyou, but that would have undermined her resolve. She wanted to fight Vader.

Yeah but, what did she think her bfr stunt would have done that a temple explosion wouldn't have? Was she planning to shiv Vader in the fall or something?

Two possibilities, imo.

1.) It was just a last ditch effort. Ahsoka knew she wasn't going to defeat Vader, so maybe a fall + explosion combo might do what she could not.

2.) She was actually protecting Vader from getting hit with the blast at point blank range, so she triggered the fall.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Not to say she was going to win (far from it), but her jamming her lightsabers into the ground and leaving herself open isn't exactly a pure saber clash. She gambled on it working quick enough and would have lost. She would have either "won" (in reality taken both of them) or lost due to that move, but it really had nothing to do with a saber fight in why she was going to be swiped. Her losing led up to it, but the moment itself wasn't pure saber skill.

It also kind of makes no sense since if she were taking both of them down, why not avoid Vader until the temple blows?

Yeah Jamming her Sabers into the ground was a last ditch move to try and survive the fight by a possible BFR. But Her tactics are her choice. Vader needed none.

By pure Sabers I meant that TK was not used like the first time he KOd her.

Rebels Ahsoka couldn't take Canon Grievous? Ha!

FYI those nook Inquisitors are former Jedi.

According to a Rebels Recon from Season 2, Rebels Ahsoka is less skilled with a lightsaber than she was in The Clone Wars. Her skills with a blade have grown rusty due to lack of frequent use. Her Force powers have grown a bit, maybe, but even that's speculative. All we know for a fact is that she's gained wisdom in the years since The Clone Wars. And since we know TCW Ahsoka couldn't take Grievous (he ragdolled her in Season 5, during their last encounter, which happened shortly before she left the Order), it's safe to assume Grievous would still be able to ragdoll Rebels Ahsoka, given her saber skills have declined, not grown.

And yes, I know the mook inquisitors are former Jedi. Doesn't make them anyless mooks. They're near-featless, aside from two of them working together being enough to defeat Kanan, a half-trained Padawan at the time. TCW Ahsoka fought an Inquisitor in the Ahsoka novel. She held her own against him unarmed with little difficulty, and even mentioned to Bail that any properly trained Jedi could handle such a foe.

The Inquisitors, aside from the Grand Inquisitor himself, are all mooks. Just like Sha'a Gi is a mook. Or Coleman Trebor. Or most of the Jedi who died in the Geonosis Arena. Being able to dispatch two weak Inquisitors does not equate to being superior to Grievous or Assaj, and it certainly doesn't equate to being able to take on Dooku and have a hope of winning.

Ahsoka's most impressive feat was holding her own against Vader, an extremely circumstantial duel which she still would have lost if it hadn't been for Ezra's temporal interference. Vader was driving her back almost the entire duel, despite her speed advantage, despite her mobility advantage, and despite her weapon advantage.

A fight against DD Vos using the Dark Side would be like a fight against a slightly weaker Vader, but without the speed and mobility disadvantages, and without the style familiarity that let Ahsoka contend with a combatant on Vader's level to begin with. I just can't see her coming out on top here. All Ahsoka has on Vos is paired lightsabers against a single saber. Vos, meanwhile, has beaten three opponents in Dark Disciple that all could take Ahsoka on their own.

Originally posted by Galan007
Two possibilities, imo.

1.) It was just a last ditch effort. Ahsoka knew she wasn't going to defeat Vader, so maybe a fall + explosion combo might do what she could not.

2.) She was actually protecting Vader from getting hit with the blast at point blank range, so she triggered the fall.

Maybe. It just seems a little pointless to me. Unless she were just trying to only bfr him, but then the temple explosion and her being on the shattered ground...

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah Jamming her Sabers into the ground was a last ditch move to try and survive the fight by a possible BFR. But Her tactics are her choice. Vader needed none.

By pure Sabers I meant that TK was not used like the first time he KOd her.

Just saying the ground plunge shortened the fight. Who knows how long it would have went on otherwise? He was going to win, but I doubt it would have been the next swing like the ground plunge/no Ezra swing would have been.

Ahsoka was quite fatigued by that point, so the battle wouldn't have lasted much longer at all, me thinks.

Originally posted by Rebel95
How was that circumstantial?

Dark side nexus. There's enough holistically implying his superiority anyhow, but it's stupid to claim there's a signficant gap, at least as of that point in Vader's career. Vader almost certainly wasn't in his prime. That said this version of vader has spent ten years growing since being able to pull down a freighter much larger than the one TCW Maul dragged and disintegrating lileks, so it's still very impressive.

She also drove back Maul on the aforementioned nexus, and held her own against Sidious's lightning before being overpowered.

As for the fight, Ahsoka is unquestionably more powerful, but if Dooku ragdolling Vos twice didn't prevent him from losing, I'm not sure what Ahsoka's gonna do. She prolly isn't on par with the count as a duelist.

I'd like to see the source for Rebels Tano being < TCW Tano in saber skill

Originally posted by Kurk
I'd like to see the source for Rebels Tano being < TCW Tano in saber skill

Watch the Rebels Recon from Season 2. It's in there. I don't quite recall which, but I'll find it if you need it.

Originally posted by Underachiever59
According to a Rebels Recon from Season 2, Rebels Ahsoka is less skilled with a lightsaber than she was in The Clone Wars.

85% sure they never say that.