Zeus (DC) vs. Grandmaster

Started by operator6163 pages

It wasn't nerfed. Even the anti life equation was stated to be literally nothing when compared to the power of the source in that arc.

Originally posted by operator616
Because they don't have an answer to GM's reality warping powers. Phantom Stranger on the other hand has actually resisted reality warping at least 2 times that i recall of (and at other times he didn't, so it's debatable).

Grandmaster is now a reality warper? Highfather and Ganthet have warped reality too then. In fact a random machine created by a guardian has warped reality on planetary scale.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Grandmaster is now a reality warper? Highfather and Ganthet have warped reality too then. In fact a random machine created by a guardian has warped reality on planetary scale.

When have they warped reality? And i mean as individuals so no shared feats or tech feats.

Originally posted by operator616
When have they warped reality? And i mean as individuals so no shared feats or tech feats.

Highfather warped reality on every planet destroyed by Shi'vva to change it the way it was and cured a whole city turned into animals and wiped their memories.

Ganthet did the same when a female guardian devastated the whole planet. Also child guardians could make entire species extinct by simple thought.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Highfather warped reality on every planet destroyed by Shi'vva to change it the way it was and cured a whole city turned into animals and wiped their memories.

Ill look into it.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Ganthet did the same when a female guardian devastated the whole planet. Also child guardians could make entire species extinct by simple thought.

Is this the child guardian in Kyle's series or were you referring to something else? Because i don't recall any reality warping going on in there.

Originally posted by operator616
Ill look into it.

No need to.

Highfather returns an entire town back to normal after the people were turned into animals and the town was destroyed.

https://s6.postimg.cc/maoweynht/Mister_Miracle.v2_002.Imbie.20.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/e3wwndxf5/Mister_Miracle.v2_002.Imbie.21.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/j1ah8hze9/Mister_Miracle.v2_002.Imbie.22.jpg

Highfather restores all the worlds after they were destroyed by Si'vaa even after he was absorbed by The Source.

https://s6.postimg.cc/m1vx2s035/New_Gods11-18.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/3nldysnsh/New_Gods11-20.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/fyeciv9td/New_Gods11-21.jpg

Is this the child guardian in Kyle's series or were you referring to something else? Because i don't recall any reality warping going on in there.

The same. Ganthet restored the whole planet with a wave of his hand.

https://s6.postimg.cc/5393sjywh/GL161_16.jpg

What do you think happened there?

Current Zeus is still a skyfather and scales to Odin who have better feats than Dc Zeus

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Current Zeus is still a skyfather and scales to Odin who have better feats than Dc Zeus

Odin has lesser showings than Zeus too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Odin has lesser showings than Zeus too.
Well yeah modern Odin sucks, I was talking Classic and everybody have low ends

Originally posted by abhilegend
No need to.

Highfather returns an entire town back to normal after the people were turned into animals and the town was destroyed.

https://s6.postimg.cc/maoweynht/Mister_Miracle.v2_002.Imbie.20.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/e3wwndxf5/Mister_Miracle.v2_002.Imbie.21.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/j1ah8hze9/Mister_Miracle.v2_002.Imbie.22.jpg

Highfather restores all the worlds after they were destroyed by Si'vaa even after he was absorbed by The Source.

https://s6.postimg.cc/m1vx2s035/New_Gods11-18.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/3nldysnsh/New_Gods11-20.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/fyeciv9td/New_Gods11-21.jpg

Where was it mentioned that highfather restored all the worlds? All i read is that he restored the new genesis city. And restoration is not the same as reality warping which is manipulating space/time.

Originally posted by abhilegend

The same. Ganthet restored the whole planet with a wave of his hand.

https://s6.postimg.cc/5393sjywh/GL161_16.jpg

What do you think happened there?

Again, no reality warping to be seen. And he merely restored the military force not the whole planet.

Originally posted by operator616
Where was it mentioned that highfather restored all the worlds? All i read is that he restored the new genesis city. And restoration is not the same as reality warping which is manipulating space/time.

Metron mentioned that everything is better than previously.

What would be manipulation of space time? Because I'm not seeing any feats from Grandmaster that mentions reality warping?

Again, no reality warping to be seen. And he merely restored the military force not the whole planet.

The whole planet was devastated and Ganthet restored it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Metron mentioned that everything is better than previously.

He says so while looking at the new genesis city and we've shown on panel HF restoring the city and not any other planet.

Originally posted by abhilegend

What would be manipulation of space time? Because I'm not seeing any feats from Grandmaster that mentions reality warping?

The whole planet was devastated and Ganthet restored it.

Yes you did see it in the GM vs Darkseid thread. What you're posting is matter manipulation not space/time. Surfer has several molecular/matter manipulation feats and hal has manipulated matter and atomic structure of things on multiple occasions, and similar to your restoration feats, he restored evolution across an entire planet. So are Hal and surfer reality warpers too? No they're matter manipulators (and minor ones at that too). The fabric of space/time is another thing entirely.

I don't see how came to that conclusion.

Originally posted by operator616
He says so while looking at the new genesis city and we've shown on panel HF restoring the city and not any other planet.

That's not what Metron said.

Yes you did see it in the GM vs Darkseid thread. What you're posting is matter manipulation not space/time. Surfer has several molecular/matter manipulation feats and hal has manipulated matter and atomic structure of things on multiple occasions, and similar to your restoration feats, he restored evolution across an entire planet. So are Hal and surfer reality warpers too? No they're matter manipulators (and minor ones at that too). The fabric of space/time is another thing entirely.

I don't see how came to that conclusion.

Would you like to share these reality warping feats for Grandmaster?

Surfer or Hal have not restored entire planets after they are devastated.

Also Grandmaster creating Squadron Sinister was retconned as him tapping into a wellspring of power.

So much for reality warping.

Highfather has cut apart space/time as well to show another cosmos where he could've banished Orion.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-New-Gods-1995/Issue-8?id=88511

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also Grandmaster creating Squadron Sinister was retconned as him tapping into a wellspring of power.

So much for reality warping.

What's his other low showings besides the Hulk one in recent marvel?

He lost to Baron Zemo with moonstone and Maestro.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He lost to Baron Zemo with moonstone and Maestro.

Can I see?

Although, moonstone isn't exactly weak o.O

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Can I see?

Although, moonstone isn't exactly weak o.O

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
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Moonstone is hardly skyfather level.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Moonstone is hardly skyfather level.

Because Maestro had the Iso-Sphere?