Originally posted by SquallX
😆Did not know that.
That’s actully why i tends to stay away from characters like Batman, they’re lore are to retarded sometimes.
If you told me Superman is able to stop wounds from bleeding, I’ll say okay. The argument could be Kal is an alien, hence different biology crap. But Bruce who is human is restarted.
Here's the bullet one:
I'd have to look for the Alfred one though. If I come across it, I can post it later.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You think that's bad? Batman lore is a ****ing rabbit-hole of shit that makes no sense. Did you know Alfred can expertly mimic Bruce's voice? Or that Bruce can instinctively stop bullet wounds from bleeding?It's all mental.
So Afreds a skilled impressionist being a stage actor, and Batman is a ninja. And?
Originally posted by panthergod
Alfred raised Bruce. He knows his vocal intonation better than anyone. And he's a master of disguise as well iirc.
So what?
Being a master of disguise and raising someone doesn’t mean you can now mimick them to the perfect t!
Superman can mimick someone perfectly because he actually have absolute control of his nodes.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't remember where I read it, or even if I did, but I thought I read once that Joker's body language is completely ****ed. The signs experienced fighters use to counter attacks just aren't there with the Joker, which leads to getting tagged more than you would against people who have way more training.
Don't forget he managed to fight the entire Batfamily and take them out.
And has a healing factor.
Originally posted by SquallX
So what?Being a master of disguise and raising someone doesn’t mean you can now mimick them to the perfect t!
Superman can mimick someone perfectly because he actually have absolute control of his nodes.
What I or anyone else can do is irrelevant. What I described--facts-- explain the ability. Period.
You not linking it is irrelevant. it is absolutely explained based on the facts about the character. there is nothing unreasonable about it.
The levels of ability is what is unreasonable.
Can he do it? Sure. Not unreasonable. Can he do it to that level? That's unreasonable.
It's like having someone who can run 100m in 5seconds. I mean, that person has legs and knows how to run, so his ability to run isn't in question.
But to do it at that level? Nah.
Or put another way, if ALFRED could run 100m in 10secs....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The levels of ability is what is unreasonable.Can he do it? Sure. Not unreasonable. Can he do it to that level? That's unreasonable.
It's like having someone who can run 100m in 5seconds. I mean, that person has legs and knows how to run, so his ability to run isn't in question.
But to do it at that level? Nah.
Or put another way, if ALFRED could run 100m in 10secs....
The levels of ability are not unreasonable.
.. This is comics.
Copying a voice extremely well of someone you've raised since childhood when you're an actor with experience as an secret agent is not in any way an unreasonable ability... in the least. this is laughable.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't remember where I read it, or even if I did, but I thought I read once that Joker's body language is completely ****ed. The signs experienced fighters use to counter attacks just aren't there with the Joker, which leads to getting tagged more than you would against people who have way more training.
Originally posted by SquallX
Which makes no sense. I know it’s fiction, but still.
On the contrary -- if you're taking direction from real life, Pr's explanation makes even MORE sense. Fact is, many fighters are taught to fight in stylized ways that actually make them LESS effective as fighters.
Michael Jai White gave an excellent demonstration of this to Kimbo Slice a few years back:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KHpzT-_Yvi8
(In the event this clip is ever removed by YouTube, just Google Michael Jai Kimbo Slice lesson.)
Originally posted by panthergod
So Afreds a skilled impressionist being a stage actor, and Batman is a ninja. And?
And it isn't the principle, it's the execution. Batman lore takes simple ideas and drags it kicking and screaming to the extreme.
I'm not saying I don't like it. I'm saying it's par for the course for Batman, and still silly.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
On the contrary -- if you're taking direction from real life, Pr's explanation makes even MORE sense. Fact is, many fighters are taught to fight in stylized ways that actually make them LESS effective as fighters.Michael Jai White gave an excellent demonstration of this to Kimbo Slice a few years back:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KHpzT-_Yvi8
(In the event this clip is ever removed by YouTube, just Google Michael Jai Kimbo Slice lesson.)
Damn, I loved Blood and Bone.
I'm envisioning Heath Ledger's Joker now and not seeing how Clark wins.
Especially if Joker decides to show him a magic trick ...
Joker is a much better fighter than Superman and hell his endurance would make a powerless Supes struggle to put him down
This is someone who gets beat to hell and back and doesn't feel the pain of his face being cut off.
Joker's pain tolerance is on another level
Hell he might just kill him outright given the stipulations with a Joy Buzzer or acid flower spray
The only reason Batman lives is because of his skill and tech
A regular dude stands about as much chance as a girl in texas chainsaw massacre